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Oniw17
01-26-07, 01:28 PM
Why is this a banable offense?

Redefine91
01-26-07, 04:55 PM
What post is in question?

vslayer
01-26-07, 05:21 PM
some guy made a pedo joke, then implanck had a spaz, the guy countered his argument by (most probably pretending) to support pedophilia and child abuse. this went on for quite some time, and then the decision was made after implancks ban to give this guy one for supporting illegal actions.

MetaKron
01-26-07, 05:51 PM
That is a bad precedent. Where does it end? A lot of people here support marijuana use, for example.

Bells
01-26-07, 05:58 PM
That is a bad precedent. Where does it end? A lot of people here support marijuana use, for example.
Do you equate supporting the use of marijuana as being akin to child abuse or paedophilia?

Oniw17
01-26-07, 06:15 PM
Where are the forum rules?

vslayer
01-26-07, 06:59 PM
on the signup page. i think plazma is working on making them accessable from the main page.

Bells
01-26-07, 07:01 PM
Where are the forum rules?

As Plazma has stated in another thread asking the same question:

Soon we will have common rules in a form of announcement in each forum.
Link (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=62471)


At present most of the forums have their own guidelines. I think the discussion as to whether a general set of rules that will apply equally to all is still being finalised.

Oniw17
01-26-07, 07:03 PM
This is what I got on the registration page.
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MetaKron
01-26-07, 09:31 PM
Do you equate supporting the use of marijuana as being akin to child abuse or paedophilia?

Do you equate joking about child abuse or pedophilia with supporting same?

Do you think that people who support spanking should be locked out for "supporting child abuse" because some people think that spanking should be considered child abuse?

invert_nexus
01-26-07, 09:36 PM
I think this ban wasn't worthy.
It was just a stupid joke.
Lighten up.

Oniw17
01-26-07, 10:01 PM
Besideas that, I've checked all the subforums, and the registrations, and I haven't seen a rule about supporting child abuse anyway.

James R
01-26-07, 11:03 PM
By agreeing to these rules, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws.

Jokes about child abuse are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening and condone illegal acts.

Oniw17
01-26-07, 11:09 PM
So we can't talk about polygamy or drugs either? It condones illegal acts, right?

James R
01-26-07, 11:22 PM
You should be able to talk about drugs and polygamy in a way that is not obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening or violative of any laws.

Oniw17
01-26-07, 11:29 PM
Aren't polygamy and many drugs illegal?

James R
01-26-07, 11:36 PM
Yes, but discussing them isn't.

Bells
01-27-07, 01:44 AM
Do you equate joking about child abuse or pedophilia with supporting same?

Do you think that people who support spanking should be locked out for "supporting child abuse" because some people think that spanking should be considered child abuse?

One would assume that one could use common sense to decide. But I guess some just don't have any.

Aren't polygamy and many drugs illegal?
In some places they are legal. But that aside, you simply cannot make a joke crass or disgusting enough about polygamy or drugs as one could about having sex with a small child, wouldn't you agree?

Where do you draw the line? Should a line be drawn at all?

I'll give you an example. My husband's best friend of 25 years is a primary school teacher. He was telling us the other day about one of his 8 year old students who would pull down his pants and play with himself at anyone and everyone in the school yard. My husband and I started to laugh about it, thinking kids will be kids. And then we saw the look on his face and it dawned on us. The kid acted like this because he was sexually abused at home and he was expected to walk around the house without his pants on so his abuser could play with him whenever he felt like it. Could one make a joke about it? Very easily. But think of the subject matter of the joke and then think how disgusting it actually is. Is it funny to joke about a grown person forcing a small child to perform sexual acts? Can it be funny? Or does it just make you cringe?

Discussing it is one thing. To joke about it as though it were funny or amusing.. well that's another thing altogether isn't it?

Oniw17
01-27-07, 01:55 AM
In some places they are legal. But that aside, you simply cannot make a joke crass or disgusting enough about polygamy or drugs as one could about having sex with a small child, wouldn't you agree?


I agree, but I'm sure ther are people who don't. Afterall, how disgusting something is is a matter of opinion. Also, in the description(I haven't read the thread), it simply said supporting child abuse, which is subjective in itself.

Bells
01-27-07, 02:00 AM
I'm not speaking for anyone else but myself. And I am sure others would have difficulty understanding anything lol. And it is a matter of personal opinion. Just a very grey area in regards to "rules and regulations" when formulating forum rules. I guess you'd expect some common sense but again, some are lacking in that as well.

Lets face it, child sex abuse is a taboo subject because it is so disgusting and so life destroying. I just find jokes about adults forcing children into sex to be beyond distasteful. But some don't. As you said, it goes by one's personal opinion. I guess I am a prude when it comes to that subject..

What better? be vaporized in nuclear blast or be raped?
Neither actually. Don't ask me why..

redarmy11
01-27-07, 03:59 AM
Jokes about child abuse are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented
True...
hateful, threatening and condone illegal acts.
Untrue. By 'hateful' I understand that you're implying that people who tell and 'enjoy' (that's the wrong word, but it'll have to do) these jokes hate children and relish the idea of them being abused?

Some humour has an 'ugh!' factor. Some of us - deeply normal and ethical in every respect - (a) appreciate this, and (b) are able to seperate the fiction from the reality. Yes?

PS If you decide to respond please try to avoid browbeating me with horrific facts about the reality of child abuse. You'd be telling me nothing new and - as a deeply normal and ethical individual - I think I'd sort of resent being patronised in that way. ;)