speeding electron
11-11-03, 07:58 AM
Simplify this expression...
(x-a)(x-b)(x-c)....(x-z)
(x-a)(x-b)(x-c)....(x-z)
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View Full Version : simplify... speeding electron 11-11-03, 07:58 AM Simplify this expression... (x-a)(x-b)(x-c)....(x-z) ryans 11-11-03, 08:14 AM (x-a)(x-b)(x-c)....(x-n) =x^N.........(abc...n) HAHAHA are the numbers a, b etc random, or to they have some relationship HallsofIvy 11-11-03, 08:14 AM Since the indicated product clearly includes "(x-x)", the product is 0! :D geodesic 11-13-03, 03:17 AM The expansion is: x^n+(a+b+c...z)x^(n-1)+(ab+bc+ac...yz)x^(n-2)+...+(abc...z) Any particular reason why? ryans 11-13-03, 06:00 AM combinations and permutations. Figure out how many ways you can permute a set of m symbols, of n elements, then sum over all sets. For example. given the set of all elements in the alphabet, i.e. m=26, how many configurations exist of 2 elements such that each configuration is commutative and may only appear once. Answer (26*25)/2. What about all sets containg 1-26 elements answer (26 C 0)+(26 C 1) + (26 C 2) + ...............( 26 C 26) HallsofIvy 11-13-03, 05:23 PM "What about all sets containg 1-26 elements answer (26 C 0)+(26 C 1) + (26 C 2) + ...............( 26 C 26)" Which is, of course, 2^26. (By the way, since you start with 26C0 instead of 26C1, it is the number of subsets of a set with 26 elements, each subset containing 0 to 26 elements, not 1-26.) 1100f 11-13-03, 06:45 PM Originally posted by HallsofIvy Since the indicated product clearly includes "(x-x)", the product is 0! :D Since 0! = 1, then I understand that you mean that the product = 1. :D I don't understand how. I believe that if the product includes "(x-x)", the product should be 0. However, as far as I remember the English alphabet is: a b c d e ... m n o p ... w x y z. Since the product stops at n which is before x in the alphabet, "(x-x)" is not included in the product which is consequently not equal to 0. :D lethe 11-13-03, 07:01 PM Originally posted by 1100f Since 0! = 1, then I understand that you mean that the product = 1. :D I don't understand how. I believe that if the product includes "(x-x)", the product should be 0. yes However, as far as I remember the English alphabet is: a b c d e ... m n o p ... w x y z. Since the product stops at n which is before x in the alphabet, "(x-x)" is not included in the product which is consequently not equal to 0. :D the product stops at z. don t mistake the original post in this thread by speeding electron for ryans post, which was the second post in this thread. speeding electron wrote a product that went to z, but ryans missed the trick, and tried to do the problem the hard way, and therefore failed to get the correct answer. ryans only expaned n terms, when he should have either expanded 26 terms explicitly, or simply noticed that (x-x) is one of the terms. so make sure you are reading the correct version of the question. 1100f 11-13-03, 07:41 PM Originally posted by lethe . so make sure you are reading the correct version of the question. You are right. I am left (with my mistake). HallsofIvy 11-14-03, 08:08 AM Which leaves me in the middle. geodesic 11-14-03, 08:30 AM How silly of me. Here was I, assuming (x-a)(x-b)...(x-z) indicated an expansion of an arbitrary number of terms. If we're having fun... A sodium ion walks into a bar, and asks the barman for a packet of crisps. The barman says "Are you sure?" to which the ion replies "Yes, I'm positive.":D lethe 11-14-03, 01:02 PM Originally posted by geodesic and asks the barman for a packet of crisps. what are crisps? AD1 11-15-03, 07:50 AM What you would call chips. What do you call a joke involving Cobalt, Radon and Yttrium? CoRnY. |