These were revealed over 1,400 years ago..

People will leave prayer.


3. Lying will become an art.

4. There will be murders on the slightest of disagreements.

5. Interest will become common.

6. There will be very tall buildings.

7. People will sell religion for the world.

8. People will treat relatives badly.

9. Justice will become a rarity.

10. Lies will be considered truth.

11. Clothes will be of silk.

12. Persecution will become common.

13. Divorces will become common.

14. Sudden deaths will increase.

15. The usurper of Ama’naat will be considered honest and honorable.

16. The keeper of Ama’naat will be called an usurper of things given to him for safekeeping.

17. Liars will be thought of as honest.

18. Honest people will be thought of as liars.

19. False accusations will become the norm.

20. It will be hot in spite of rain.

21. Instead of wishing for children, people will pray that they not have children.

22. People from bad backgrounds and with bad upbringing will live a life of luxury (material, not peaceful).

23. Good people, when they try to practice, will be cut off from the world.

24. Previously good people will also usurp Ama'naat.

25. Leaders will become persecutors.

26. Ulema and Qaris will commit adultery.

27. People will wear clothes of animal skin.

28. But their hearts will smell and will be dead.

29. And will be bitter.

30. Gold will become common.

31. Demand for silver will increase.

32. Sin will increase.

33. Peace will become rare.

34. Ayaats from the Quran will be decorated and calligraphy will become.

35. Mosques will be decorated.

36. And will have tall Minars.

37. But hearts will be empty.

38. Alcoholic drinks will be consumed.

39. Punishments ordered by the Shariah will be revoked and will not longer be implemented.

40. Women will order their mother around.

41. People who are with naked feet, naked bodies and against religion will become kings.

42. Women will trade along with men.

43. Women will imitate men.

44. Men will imitate women.

45. People will swear by things other than Allah and the Quran.

46. Even Muslims will be prepared to give false testimony, without being incited to it.

47. Only people one knows will be greeted with the salaam.

48. The knowledge of the Shariah will be used to earn worldly things.

49. Acts, which earn the Akhirah, will be used to earn the world.

50. Assets belonging to the nation will be considered and treated as personal treasures by the rulers.

51. Ama'naat will be considered ones personal asset.

52. Zakaat will be considered as a penalty.

53. The lowest and the worst man in the nation will become its leader.

54. People will not obey their fathers.

55. And will mistreat their mothers.

56. And will not hold back from harming their friends.

57. And will obey their wives.

58. And the voices of the men who commit adultery will be raised in mosques.

59. Women who sing will be treated with great deference.

60. Instruments of music will be kept with great care.

61. Alcohol will be drunk on the highways.

62. People will be proud of their acts of persecution.

63. Justice will be sold in the courts.

64. The number of men in the police force will increase.

65. Instead of music, the Quran will be used to gain pleasure for its tune and style (qirat), not for what it preaches, its meaning or for rewards in the Akhirah.

66. Animal fur will be used.

67. The last of the Ummat will curse those before them (clearly seen today in people who call the Prophet’s companion’s names).

68. Either Allah will send a Red Storm upon you.

69. Or Earthquakes.

70. Or your faces will be changed.

71. Or a rain of rocks from the skies. Asteroids? Meteors.

72. Lies will become a habit of the rulers and the rich.

who/what is Ama'naat?

Where did this come from? This is all so general, I don't trust it. You must not beleive all you read.

By the way, this guy who is to frigging lazy to sign up wants me to post this response for him:rolleyes:
"Well DAM... looks like we're all f&cked. Giant going away drinking party and orgi at my house.
Ejo Thims

Most of these things were true 1500 years ago too...

Prophet Muhammad's (saws) Last Sermon (http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/prophet/lastsermon.html)

There are no signs about the dooms day. The hour of this day is kept secret with god. Prophet Muhammed would have never dwelled in talking about signs of the hour, because when he asked god about this very same question, he was told NO....


Here's the Quranic verses to that effect:
The Elevated Places
[7.187] They ask you about the hour, when will be its taking place? Say: The knowledge of it is only with my Lord; none but He shall manifest it at its time; it will be momentous in the heavens and the earth; it will not come on you but of a sudden. They ask you as if you were solicitous about it. Say: Its knowledge is only with Allah, but most people do not know.

bhudmaash :::

dude, im sorry... those are things that have existed for ALL TIME. I can go through one by one and show you these things throughout history. People have been expecting the end of the world since almost the beginning of the world. Jesus' disciples were even expecting Jesus to return before their lives had ended. Dont be a jerk.

Peace. :m: :bugeye:

the title got me a bit excited, but i am afraid that there is bad news. mankind is virtually unstoppable.

i always laugh at these sort of stories, but there do not seem to come to grips with the fact that what actually can stop mankind now. we are advanced enough to stop virtually all doomsday events. and people are often talking about aliens coming and wiping us out. why would they do such a thing. the universe could not exist if civilisations went around destoying each other.

just what mankind are going to become is really up to them, like i don't mean that man is going to become somehow better. i happen to believe that there is more evil in the world than there ever has been

Unfortunetly, you are wrong in us being unstoppable.

Have you ever studied hydrology, seismic, oceanology, Geology, ect. Man have no knowledge of the frequency and magnitutue of occurance of any of those events....Any of those event could easily cause a doom day.......when the type for the occurance is ripe of course.

what i meant was no matter what event like to do with nature came about, it may even kill 99% of the human race, but our species will still survive guaranteed.
the human race has and will have worst case scenarios studies for governments like the usa. so whatever happens governments like the usa will and are investigating it, because they know they have to be ready and they know they are not foolish enough to deny the dangers exist.

it is like the threat of meteors. the american government do research this, but they deny this to the public. they have plans on certain scenarios, but they are not going to tell the public because they see it as scare mungering. and why would the public even be needed to be told of such an event unless the government could not stop it and it was a global killer as sciencetists call them

so i say again man is virtually unstoppable

this does not mean there might not be massive disaters, but the government have plans in place if something does happen. remember like i say if something happened whenever and killed 99% of the human race there still are 1% left to carry on the species.

And do we also study the age of our very earth. For example, when will the earth completely cool down to the core to the point that it would shatter and become a meteor shower just like other planets???

Please don't imply that our knowledge is above nature and universal law. We are just here because our envinronment allows it, the minute our envionment change, we're done.....no white house bunker will save humanity.

Persol, socialistprophet....guys chill out!!!!.....it was late one night....I thought I'd throw this in the Arena...jeez! Take it easy.
Jerk?!!......now steady on old chap...

Originally posted by bhudmaash
Persol, socialistprophet....guys chill out!!!!.....it was late one night....I thought I'd throw this in the Arena...jeez! Take it easy. Jerk?!!......now steady on old chap... Lol, all I said was Most of these things were true 1500 years ago too.... Chill out guy!!! I thought I'd throw this is the Arena... jeez!

Originally posted by heflores
And do we also study the age of our very earth. For example, when will the earth completely cool down to the core to the point that it would shatter and become a meteor shower just like other planets???

Please don't imply that our knowledge is above nature and universal law. We are just here because our envinronment allows it, the minute our envionment change, we're done.....no white house bunker will save humanity.

what is our rate of accelarartion of knowledge. can i ask you this. we are only, let's make a conservative guess here - only one hundred years away from being able to put men living on mars(it will probably be shorter than that. what are the chances of what you describe happening without the human race not knowing about it within the next hundred years. there is no chance of that happening in a hundred years. so this time next century, there should be some sort of colonization of space whether it is on the moon or on mars.

can you at least accept that, the human race will last until we colonise somewhere else, and then we have greater chance of survival.

Originally posted by andy1033
can you at least accept that, the human race will last until we colonise somewhere else, and then we have greater chance of survival.

No, because I know for a fact that there is noway to colonize somewhere else. Man needs fresh water and oxgen lots and lots of it. Nowhere else but earth have that.

So we learn quickly and we are still big time idiots, let me give you an example. Everyone was so excited about building dams and hydropower, it took so much great engineering, combining civil, mechanical, electrical, ect.....Now we are in the business of removing dams because we discovered that they resulted in massive fish and salmon kills, the created lake weights caused earthquakes and downstream of the dam became eroded gullies.

Man creates what he needs at the moment for his survival, but man have absolutely no understanding of nature and how it works. Afterall, we have divided our fields of study into 1000 fields, biology, chemistry, physics, ect.....Nature doesn't know fields, It's one continous seemless web.

Originally posted by heflores
No, because I know for a fact that there is noway to colonize somewhere else. Man needs fresh water and oxgen lots and lots of it. Nowhere else but earth have that. You know this as a fact? I wish I was all-knowing. And here I thought that other planets had plenty of oxygen and hydrogen, but it's tied up in molecules which we can break apart. I also though tat oxygen and hydrogen and carbon are reusable as long as we have energy to put into the system.

heflores-No, because I know for a fact that there is noway to colonize somewhere else. Man needs fresh water and oxgen lots and lots of it. Nowhere else but earth have that.


what is that all about, man does not need to terraform mars yet, people have visions of artificle towns and cities first. they know terraforming may take centuries. you do not see in my post that i said within 100 years mars is going to be like earth. mars as we all know would take centuries to terraform, and by the way we have all the gasses and water already there on mars, we just need to unlock it, and this is something we will do.

again i say man is virtually unstoppable

man will go on a manned trip to mars they say at around 2018. it all depends on how fast the corporations find a way of making space pay. but can you not see that man can if it was willing, we could colonise and by this we don't need to terraform yet. like i said man will first if and when it chooses, build artificle centers like towns on mars. is this not colonisation in your book. because when and not if one human being actually lives on mars we have colonised it. colonisation does not mean we need to have a million people there.

Originally posted by Persol
Lol, all I said was Most of these things were true 1500 years ago too.... Chill out guy!!! I thought I'd throw this is the Arena... jeez!

...touche....my mistake, I didn't mean to include your name.
Very droll.

Well....... for a moment let's say some time down the road there is a big meteor that blows us all to pieces or that some lake, dam, river problems causes another noahs ark. Unfortunately there are no modern day noahs so we all drown like rats.

My question here is: Who the fuck is to say it has anything whatsoever to do with god, allah, the tooth fairy or any other strange supernatural being?

Mankind has been predicting the end of the world since the day it began :D I guess it is a worthy fear if you look up into the sky at night. What's to say there's no huge rock on its way to squash us all? Nostradamus, bob the psychic, and a million billion other people have made claims to the end of the earth. The bible is the only work that was smart enough to remain 'true' if anything happens simply because it wasn't presumptuous enough to give a specific date: The world will end, only god knows when. Shit man, even i know the world will end- but saying some big invisible guy knows the exact date has no credibility, no value, and is really quite inconsequential to the argument of earthly destruction. Earth will cease to be someday- still doesn't mean it's because of anyone.

Originally posted by SnakeLord
- but saying some big invisible guy knows the exact date has no credibility, no value, and is really quite inconsequential to the argument of earthly destruction. Earth will cease to be someday- still doesn't mean it's because of anyone.

Snake, you have wrote so much under so many threads and didn't understand anything. GOD IS NOT AN INVISIBILE GUY IN THE SKY. Can you at least get that. We don't know what god looks like. He might be an ultimate combining force, a forming energy, ect. But we know that this force is responsible for all creation, alteration, and end. This force has free will and know what it'd doing....It's no invisible green elephant or man though. Please elevate from kindergarden already so you may understand theism better.

Originally posted by heflores
We don't know what god looks like. He might be an ultimate combining force, a forming energy, ect.
I might be inclined to believe in the possibility of a god if we were to agree it would just be a force of some kind.
But I will never believe anyone in history knew anymore than we do which is nothing. Therefore I don't believe in the bible the Quaran(sp?) or whatever.
NO ONE IN HISTORY WITNESSED THIS GOD OR HEARD IT "SPEAK".

I don't believe this god would give a damn about what we are doing in our insignificant lives.

This combining force or power which we may call god have never talked to individuals with the exception of Moses, and even to Moses, information were revealed to his Mind and god didn't speak to him in a typical sense like I would speak for instance.

The force has revealed to Jesus words, so has it to Muhammed. Since ancient history we all know that looking at the face of god is death, because this great power or force can not be near us lowly carbon atoms in our current form. God may only communicate with us from behind a veil.

Please note that energy and force are still lowly terms to when it comes to talking about god. Power is a more complicated terms, because it multiply the force by the velocity. Other more complicated terms may come closer to describing god, but I don't think we can agree on a mathematical equation, because a creation will never become more sophisticated than it's creator. And we must be more sophisticated to understand it.

On that same token, angels are not chubby white children in wings. In the Quran, angel are described as tough planets, while devils are described as rejected shooting stars.

Originally posted by andy1033
[Bwhat is that all about, man does not need to terraform mars yet, people have visions of artificle towns and cities first. they know terraforming may take centuries. you do not see in my post that i said within 100 years mars is going to be like earth. mars as we all know would take centuries to terraform, and by the way we have all the gasses and water already there on mars, we just need to unlock it, and this is something we will do.

again i say man is virtually unstoppable
[/B]

It's impossible to make artificial towns that will ensure survival of man because of the simple rule of supply and demand. Mars does not offer us any of our supply of water, energy, food, ect...that would put up with our demand for infinity. The current models look at forming artificial towns that would resupply from earth often. Without earth, there is no hope for Mars, unless god decides it to be an cause a climatic change that will render Mars habitable.

Plus, we have never succesfully even travelled to Mars. The furthest man have went was to the Moon, and there is no plan to cultivate the moon that I'm seeing 40 years later. We have never collected data from Mars or established it as favorable grounds for man habitat. Are you talking out of your butt again.

Snake, you have wrote so much under so many threads and didn't understand anything. GOD IS NOT AN INVISIBILE GUY IN THE SKY. Can you at least get that. We don't know what god looks like. He might be an ultimate combining force, a forming energy, ect. But we know that this force is responsible for all creation, alteration, and end. This force has free will and know what it'd doing....It's no invisible green elephant or man though. Please elevate from kindergarden already so you may understand theism better.

Lol you really need to take a chill pill. No need to resort to petty little insults. It is just a figure of speech. Exactly the same as everyone referring to god as 'he'. Do you tell them to elevate from kindergarten because they use masculine terminology for a being that might not be? I use the term guy in the sky, get over it.

We don't know what god looks like.

Ok....

It's no invisible green elephant or man though

How would you know? You just said above 'we' don't know what god looks like.

But we know that this force is responsible for all creation, alteration, and end.

No 'we' dont. That's a baseless assumption. However, you can believe as you like without worry. I wont tell you to 'elevate from kindergarten'.

My personal stance on the issue is if there is a creator/s then it/they were alien beings. As you cannot disprove this claim i have total right to call them the 'guy/s from the sky'. I can in fact call god whatever i want to. I do not believe in the same things you do so why should i have to subscribe to your beliefs over what/who god is?

I will consider you've probably had a stressful day so i will ignore the angry tone in your post to me and the pointless nature of the post.

Great then we agree. You have your own religion with alien guys in the skies that abduct you for sex every night and I have my god with the limited description that I gave....Just don't come questioning my post so arrogantly though and not except me to ruffle your feathers a bit......That's why I give you back your advice to chill and don't view every post that threatens your short and narrow train of thought as an insult.

Originally posted by Dr Lou Natic
I might be inclined to believe in the possibility of a god if we were to agree it would just be a force of some kind.
But I will never believe anyone in history knew anymore than we do which is nothing. Therefore I don't believe in the bible the Quaran(sp?) or whatever.
NO ONE IN HISTORY WITNESSED THIS GOD OR HEARD IT "SPEAK".

I don't believe this god would give a damn about what we are doing in our insignificant lives.

"Better to live your life as if there were a God and find out that there isn't, than to live as if there weren't a God....then find out that there is";)

Great then we agree.

No we dont.

You have your own religion with alien guys in the skies that abduct you for sex every night and I have my god with the limited description that I gave...

Oooh such vicious insult. Kindly stop being a prick, it doesnt suit you. The fact is i can refer to god any way i please. You were the one who got all pissy about it. As you obviously cannot read i will restate that IF there was a god i would hold the impression that it/them was/is in fact an alien/s. religious scriptures give me this notion. I hardly think my post gave rise to any inclination that i get abducted by any aliens at night and have sex with them. Is it possible you were just being childish? It certainly looks that way.

Just don't come questioning my post so arrogantly though and not except me to ruffle your feathers a bit....

Ummmm i didnt even refer to any of your posts... I simply said that many people have predicted the end of the world. The bible does so just like countless others have done throughout history. Even if something disastrous did happen it wouldn't neccesarily mean or be an act of god, (the guy in the sky). Learn how to fucking read then 'ruffle my feathers'.

That's why I give you back your advice to chill and don't view every post that threatens your short and narrow train of thought as an insult.

Eh? I said 'the invisible guy in the sky' and you went all mentally deranged on me. You stated im not allowed to refer to him as the guy in the sky cause the facts are yada yada yada. Who has the narrow train of thought? It's amazing how quickly people will accuse others of their very own attitudes. Now go learn to read then come back when your pmt has subsided and we'll talk.

Out of curiosity, why does it say we will wear clothes of silk, and animal fur, are these like prophecies that come true one by one, or do they all hav to be true at once?

another signs of doomsday is the purge of god from our lives. when religion was finally "thrown out" of public society, it was a victory for satan. even in teaching morals has turned people away from god because now it is taught with out the authority of god. and without the authority of god, our morals are based on our opinion, and we have different opinions. so chaos is ensuing now, and lo and behold, our society is decaying. kids just throw stuff out the window like it was nothing. they vandalize and destroy things. 100 years ago this stuff wasnt happening.

You Go Bro!!!

( I had to post something so I will get the e-mail notice. I want to watch this thread. Tis Good!)

forget the signs given above. there are some very true signs THAT HAVE ALL COME TRUE THIS CENTURY (hundreds of them that are clear no way is it possible that these could of been prophisced 1400 years ago. if you said these to a peron 1400 years ago they would of laughed at you but noe they re true). ill make a thread soon but for know just watch the FREE VIDEOS (or buy video) about the signs at

http://www.harunyahya.com/m_video_detail.php?api_id=1274

the VIDEOS ARE GREAT with detailed explanations and graphs, facts etc and shows some great stuff on the video. CHECK IT OUT.

and also heflores who said signs arent true dont know nuffin of Islam. Allah revealed hundreds of sign to the days are coming. "suddeny" means people will not be ready ofr it as their are still evil.

Jesus is not God nor the son of God. if you think anyone who needs to go to the toilet and have a shit is God then your messed up in the head. do you think Jesus felt "God Like" on the bog? :m: :eek: he was a great Prophet nothing more.

So God is not able to come down as man ??
God is to good to do that ??

God would do as he pleases and
who are you to say what God did or cant do.

Remeber God can do as he wants and has done so.

The profits perdicted that he would come in old testament and
He did in fact come. Not only that he will come again.

it is written that a False Religion would come and try to discredit what God did on earth. It is writtin in Revalations New testament it also fortold the End as well.

This combining force or power which we may call god have never talked to individuals with the exception of Moses, and even to Moses, information were revealed to his Mind and god didn't speak to him in a typical sense like I would speak for instance.

While God does not seem to be the talkative type or perhaps we just don't listen to him too often, he does speak both audibly or internally.

K guys, there was this fella on the side of the street and he yelled at me that all the naturally forming, finite resources of this earth are running out, especially oil, because it is the work of satan and he doesn't want us driving our cars to work. Man, no one saw this coming, this guy is like some sort of prophet. And apparently watch out for animal skin thongs and a high likelihood of getting burn't if you sit out in the midday sun with no sun screen on. It's all pushing us away from god. The devil says boo and the whole world jumps and the resulting force knocks us off our rotation around the sun and we go hang with venus, then mars, then venus, you get our drift...?

Seriously, that list was silly (I'm being a bit silly myself but it was one of those days). An example, earthquakes don't occur because of the constant shifting of the earth's tectonic plates. This is obviously the work of satan. I mean, convection currents can't possibly be real. This is hard to take seriously. I'm sorry (but not really).

"Better to live your life as if there were a God and find out that there isn't, than to live as if there weren't a God....then find out that there is"
I had to respond to this, even though you had the winky smiley face finishing the sentence. I don't agree because if we only get one life, then for example become a preist for some retarded reason, we then miss out on the beauty of the whole female- mind and body (and vice versa for females of course). Heaven to me sounds like eternal boredom so why stop yourself from doing the fun stuff in life while you can? (granted I am taking the most pruish example of religious people and then stereotyping all religious people, to all those gullible enough to reply, don't :D)

I'm out, this is all too ridiculous.

So God is not able to come down as man ??
God is to good to do that ??

God would do as he pleases and
who are you to say what God did or cant do.

Remeber God can do as he wants and has done so.

The profits perdicted that he would come in old testament and
He did in fact come. Not only that he will come again.

it is written that a False Religion would come and try to discredit what God did on earth. It is writtin in Revalations New testament it also fortold the End as well.
Jesus is not God nor the son of God. if you think anyone who needs to go to the toilet and have a shit is God then your messed up in the head. do you think Jesus felt "God Like" on the bog? he was a great Prophet nothing more.

LOL its to bad that you have an image of what you believe God to be limits you in your though.

God is all things and can take any form he is not limited as you or I.
Weather he choose to come down and show us the way to evelasting life is up to him.
he also warned us of false profits that would come.

believe what you wish I will pray for you in any case as you truley are seeking God and that in itself is worthly peace be with you seeker of God.

Conclusion: Jesus of Nazareth is a figure of history

Clearly there are events recorded in connection with Jesus’ life that many non-Christians will not accept, such as the miracles, the virgin birth, and the resurrection. However what is beyond dispute is that Yeshua (‘Jesus’) of Nazareth was a figure of history, who lived, attracted a following in his life time amongst his fellow Jews and was executed by crucifixion by the Roman authorities, after which his followers spread rapidly. Both secular and Christian sources of the period agree on this.

The primary sources for the history of Jesus’ public life are the gospels. These were written down relatively soon after his death — within living memory — and we have every indication that these sources were accepted as reliable in the early Christian community, during a period when first and second hand witnesses to Jesus’ life were still available.

We conclude that any statements about ‘Isa (Jesus) in the Qur’an, made six centuries after Jesus’ death, must be judged against the historical evidence from these first century sources, and not vice versa.

another signs of doomsday is the purge of god from our lives. when religion was finally "thrown out" of public society, it was a victory for satan. even in teaching morals has turned people away from god because now it is taught with out the authority of god. and without the authority of god, our morals are based on our opinion, and we have different opinions. so chaos is ensuing now, and lo and behold, our society is decaying. kids just throw stuff out the window like it was nothing. they vandalize and destroy things. 100 years ago this stuff wasnt happening.
what a crock when God/Xianity ruled it was called the dark ages! :eek:

how can we be moral without gods?
see www.atheists.org

Strange. I always thought that we were created in god's image. That means god must have a tail bone. Ok let's debate just exactly what does the term "image" means. Ok let's not. "Combining forces" eh? Describe just what these forces look like and what exactly does it combine with. Make sure you don't confuse it with magnetism and gravity and biological processes. Those are side-shoots of god. Everyone knows that. The end of the world will happen in another few billion years give or take a millenium when our sun finally goes supernova. Unless there is some sort of divine intervention.

WARNING! Looking directly at god can kill you. Unless you're in heaven. But then you're already dead. I guess that makes sense. Couldn't god make his appearance just a little less dramatic? Or give us the ability to see him without us turning into a pillar of salt? I guess there are some things even a god can't do.

Being that everything came from god, even the lowliest of sand particles, doesn't that still make it incredibly awesome? It came from god himself! It was forged with god's own hands! How can anything the creator makes be "lesser" than the creator? Unless maybe he contracted out. :)