Gaza is "Starving", "Choked", "Concentration Camp"

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  1. i.bel Registered Member

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    Or ...
    what does it look like aside from SELECTIVE Scenes of areas that are just plain Poor?
    (That could also be seen in the poor Cairo suburbs or that of any other Arab country)

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=AmBmpo3Nnuo


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  3. disease Banned Banned

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    Isn't that what the National Socialist Party said about German Jews (or much the same thing), when they were 'contained' from the late 1930s on?

    Nowadays, there are all these cheap cameras people can get, and a lot more reporters. But Israelis are keen to have the world think the same way Nazis had it thinking? I'd say they've got a bit of covering-up to do then. They'll have to shoot all the journalists, for a start.
     
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  5. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    but this isnt the "german TV" its the palestinian TV. israel isnt even in there, and how can you compare the two?

    jews were exterminated in death camps because of a racial ideology. palestinians just received 100 million nis from israel. if they are so poor they can use the money for food instead of terror.

    or they can ask help from their arab brethren.

    the only camp is israel. jews cant move outside of israel without risk for their lives. ever saw a jew walk freely in gazaor the west bank that wasnt escorted by the military? arabs can walk freely in israel any day.
     
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  7. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Shit, Caracas looks worse than this place!
     
  8. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Journalists have been banned from Gaza, because they are so "one sided" in their view of the occupation.

    Duh! Why can't people be more sympathetic to the Israelis over these conditions?

    Surely one can be objective about this? Kinda like when you come upon a man raping some woman. One should be neutral, not "jump to conclusions" there are two sides to every story, he may have been forced to rape her and assault her in self defence etc. It all depends on how objective you are about it.

    http://www.mecaforpeace.org/article.php?id=224
     
  9. i.bel Registered Member

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    Oh Yeah!
    Your article by 'Makdisi' and the site it's on with Nothing But anti-Israel propaganda ..
    sure look "Objective"!
    (as opposed to my BROAD view of Real day-to-day Gaza)

    LOL

    (Last-wording but empty S.audi A.rabian M.uslima to follow)
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  10. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah very broad. Has anyone in Israel figured out yet that you cannot occupy and imprison an entire nation to steal their land and resources and still expect peace? That you cannot build walls to separate people from their land, build checkpoints and impose your laws through a military to protect 300 settlers in a city of 300,000 because they are Jews and "deserve to live there"? Over and over till there are 400,000 settlers in many cities holding 5 million people hostage? That you cannot set yourself up in 100% of someone else's land and make millions of people homeless and still expect peace?

    That you cannot aim helicopter gunships at a trapped populace with no means to defend themselves, kidnap family members, shoot at children, starve people because they refuse to submit to your religious mythology and still claim to be working for peace?

    That when you invade someone's home and shoot their family members, they don't care if you were abused in your childhood, they will defend themselves against you?
     
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  11. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    it looked like every other video I have seen of a place that has its resources controlled by a hostile outside power that tries to justify what it is doing. no violence with a modicum of luxury but still in the end a shit hole designed to make people do what they want.
     
  12. disease Banned Banned

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    Well, maybe it's the way Israel fires sniper rounds, missiles, tank shells and so on, into Gaza. They aren't "in there", the same way the Nazis left the Warsaw Jews alone.
    Yes, they can. The same way Jews asked their brethren for help back in the 1940s. You remember, the brethren who collaborated and denounced all those Jews to the Gestapo. Now why did those wonderful people do that?
     
  13. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, the same way that the Nazis left the Warsaw Getto alone?

    It seems that the population of the Palestinians is increasing daily, there are no mass deportation to any death camps, Israel accepts and treats sick and even wounded Palestinians in their hospitals, they allow humanitarian aid and only request to make sure it isn't a cover for smuggling weapons,....and the Palestinians? .........daily attacking Israel, with suicide bombings, sniping, rocket launches, if you pick a fight, expect to get hit back, and the Israelis are remarkably reserved in their retaliation policies, to many soft hearted, PC correct Jews I guess.

    And their Arab Brethren what have they done for them?

    Never let them settle in the lands where they are born, 4.25 million Palestinians are refugees in Arab lands, no citizenship, no right to own land, no right to work, no right to vote, no right to bank accounts, checking savings,.............

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_refugees

    The number of Palestinian refugees by country as of 2005 were as follows:

    Jordan 1,827,877 refugees
    Gaza 986,034 refugees
    West Bank 699,817 refugees
    Syria 432,048 refugees
    Lebanon 404,170 refugees
    Saudi Arabia 240,000 refugees
    Egypt 70,245 refugees

    A Million Expatriates to Benefit From New Citizenship Law by P.K. Abdul Ghafour, Arab News. October 21 , 2004. Accessed July 20, 2006

    ^ Bamberger, David (1994). A Young Person's History of Israel. Behrman House. pp. 182. ISBN 0-87441-393-1.

    But they chose to not accept it and remain in the Refugee camps instead of improving their lives, easier to suck off world welfare than make a real life.

    But Jordan don't recognize, Palestinian Authority or Israeli passport, issued to their citizens, it is a automatic revocation of their citizenship to be caught with one.


    Poverty trap for Palestinian refugees By Alaa Shahine. 29 March 2004 (aljazeera)

    Kuwait and Egypt

     
  14. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Its amazing how everyone ignores the Jewish Occupation of Palestine and blames everyone else and everything else for the condition of the Palestinians. Its the occupation! Try and imagine yourself under one for 60 years. A bunch of fanatics who think God gave them the land because they are Jews!
     
  15. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    So you are saying it is OK for the Arabs to leave the Palestinians as second class humans in Arab lands, and let them remain in poverty with no hope of anything better?

    Yes, Muslim charity, in full flower.

    The Israel took in all the Jews run out of or deported from Arab lands after the 48 war and gave them citizenship, didn't let them remain as refugees, so the Jews, Israelis, are better Humans than the Arabs it would seem.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_Arab_lands

     
  16. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Who cares what the Jews are doing for their brethren? They are occupying Palestine. And have made millions homeless for their fanatical belief. Generations of children are growing up in starvation, violence and captivity. Millions of lives destroyed for their delusion.
     
  17. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Millions homeless?

    Let see....the number of Palestinian refugees was, 711,000 in 1950, according to the United Nations Relief and Works Agency, so where did those millions come from? they weren't born in Israel, and it isn't Israelis fault that the Arab League will not let them become citizens of the Land to which they were born, Juris Solis,

    How many Palestinian generations have been born in Arab lands and never allowed Citizenship, why can't the Arab State just settle the Palestinians in and on the land confiscated from there Jewish Citizens after they drove them out,

    Plenty of land and property to do so, 4 times the lands of Israel.
     
  18. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Millions of Palestinian refugees created because Jews came to their land and took it, because they do not feel any loyalty to the countries they are born in.

    70% of Palestine stolen under the Absentee owner law.
    Why should the Palestinians give up their ancestral home to the Jews for their religious delusion? Let the Jews go to the US and practise their racist ideology there.

    Plenty of land in the US for many Jewish states. The Americans are so sympathetic to the Jewish cause they will empty their homes and land without compensation so the Jews can have their Jewish demographic and make their Aryan state. No one wants them in the Middle East anyway, so why do they stay there?
     
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  19. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    no you twit. he is saying your a moron for blaming those who don't want to deal with the effect and not those who were the cause.
     
  20. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Well boo effin whoo,:bawl: maybe it is time for the Arabs to help the Palestinians by giving them citizenship in the land to which they are born....and a right to jobs and real lives, instead of using them as political pawns for their own political gain, a little something called Jus Soli instead of keeping them in subhuman conditions, and as second class Humans in their lands.

    100,000 sq miles of Jewish owned land confiscated by the Arabs, Homes, businesses, communities, infrastructure, for which they have never paid the the Jewish owners, after they ran them out, they just confiscated the land to Themselves, in their Arab Greed and Avarice, so what is wrong with the Israelis doing turn for turn?

    That is Sharia Law, and in the Quran, Turn for Turn, Land for Land, Eye for Eye.............let the Arabs give the confiscated Jewish lands to the Palestinians, it is more than fair exchange and meet the Letter of Sharia.

    4 times the area of Israel and the Arabs can't find room or pity enough to allow the Palestinian Refugees a piece of that land in which to settle, build communities, homes, families, jobs, and a life, well Boo Efffin Who:bawl: This is a Arab generated problem since 1950, not "sraeli
     
  21. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    The Palestinians are refugees. Under UN resolution, they have right of return. No jus soli unless they apply for citizenship and teh country gives it to them. Refugees do not automatically get jus soli. Besides, they want to go home. They want to go back to their own country. Israel is the only country that practices racism against native people because of their religion and is called a "democracy".

    Let the Americans give them their Jewish state in the US.
     
  22. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    no its the Israeli's fault( first cause) if they didn't have their little war of conquest in 49. whatever the crimes of anyone else later the crime of first cause cannot be shifted. also the eye for an eye was nabbed from the torah.
     
  23. otheadp Banned Banned

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    Long Live Paliwood!
     
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