Nationalism vs. Jingoism

Discussion in 'World Events' started by Centaurus1, Jul 1, 2002.

  1. Centaurus1 AnthropocentricAgnostic Registered Senior Member

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    At what point is the line crossed from nationalism to jingoism??
     
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  3. Northwind Master of Anvils Registered Senior Member

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    There is no line. They are identical.
     
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    Welcome to sciforums, Centaurus1.
     
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  7. Centaurus1 AnthropocentricAgnostic Registered Senior Member

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    Actually.....

    If you were to look at the definitions of the two words-jingoism and nationalism-they are not "identical". I suppose it depends on what context your using the word in, as nationalism can mean both the belief that ones country is indeed superior, as well as, a genuine love or affinity for ones own country. Nevertheless if the semantics are not suffice: what is the demarcation line between patriotism-or any form of reasonable pride or affinity for one's country-and jingoism?
     
  8. Xerxes asdfghjkl Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe I'm missing somethings?

    What exactly is Jingoism?

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  9. Squid Vicious Banned Banned

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    Speaking from a semantic point of view, they are not identical. Countries and the powers-that-be on control of those countries play on our pride.

    The politicians have the belief. They then pass the belief onto the advertising agencies to promote that belief... leading to more politicians with the belief. Chicken or egg?
     
  10. Doane McTork Registered Senior Member

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    Nationalism is geared toward the organization and patriotism of ones own country or gathering of other nations to become part of the government within flux borders. Ho Chi Minh was a nationalist.

    Jingoism is the idea that we should put great spirited effort into demonstrating how foreign countries should be run through policy but without actually adopting them as citizens. Gen. Douglas MacArthur was a jingoist when reconstructing Japan.

    So, can Nationalism be Jingoistic? If Canada wanted Texas and its people to be a province and Canadian citizens, that would be a nationalistic endeavor. (And the other 49 states would probably help them).

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    If Canada just wanted them to change for any other reason than to be governed by them, that is jingoism. I think.

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