Irak or Mars?

In 2003 the US invaded Iraq now 5 years later nobody really knows how much has been spent there but I think the figure would be optimistic at around half a trillion or 500 billion$. So let's say 100 billion a year, NASA on the other hand get's around 15 billion anually. Yust wondering realisticly spoken say that the US stayd out of Iraq and spended half that money on NASA (the other half can go to all sorts of goals like maintenence on old levees and measurments to protect sub prime loners). So let's say NASA got 50 billion for 5 years in a row what would have been possible?

(PS Robert zubrin ones proposed a Mars direct plan that would cost 55 billion spread over 10 years to develop this was 12 years ago)

 

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Is there oil on Mars? Instant gratification beats uncertain rewards any time.

 

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Maybe we can just give Mars to the Jews and get rid of the entire ME problem

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..wait for it....

 

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Now there's an idea!

Kadark the Strict

 

Or the Muslims..

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Hell, why don't we give away Mars to all the religious people on Earth and let them duke it out there.

 

Nah, Mars is smaller than Earth, so it only stands to reason that the atheists would be sent there. Atheists would give new meaning to the nickname "The Red Planet".

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Kadark the Bloodthirsty

 

Yes. Methane, alkanes, and PAHs.

This thread belongs in the cesspool.

 

God isn't going to help the Atheists survive.

 

So no, no oil.

 

Are you seriously as retarded as you pretend to be?

 

I was going to ask you the same thing

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Care to explain how methane, alkanes, and PAHs equate to oil ?

 

Do you know what hydrogen and carbon are?

 

Yes my lord.

 

OK, assuming you know what hydrogen and carbon are, do you know the chemical structure of methane, the alkanes, and the PAHs?

 

Yes my lord.

 

So what is your major malfunction? Oil is nothing more than a collection of those compounds mixed with sulfur, helium, other inorganic abiotic contaminants, and injected water.

 

Hydrocarbons in oil typically range from strains from 5 to 40 carbon atoms per molecule.
Prove those are available on Mars.

 

Those are called PAHs and are found throughout the universe, in nebulae such as Orion and in interstellar dust particles.

http://www.learner.org/channel/workshops/chemistry/workshop6/6_1.html

I don't need to. NASA already has.

http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/marslife.html

http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/snc/nasa1.html

 

PAHs occur in oil, they are not the oil itself.
Also, the PAHs NASA speaks of are of biological origin and there is much uncertainty about the origin of the corresponding lifeforms.
Lastly the few crystallized PAHs that are the presumed fossils do not mean there are oil reservoirs on Mars.

 

No shit. See above. You don't even know what oil is.

OK. Can you read? NASA says and I quote "presumably formed by non-biological chemical reactions." Read it and weep.

Fossils? You and the biogenic fossil fuel cultists are the only ones claiming that PAHs in outer space come from living organisms. No biological molecule can survive on a meteorite.