An oldie but goody. Figure 1 The original artifact sliced in two Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Figure 2 X-ray of the Coso artifact Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Figure 3 The outer casing surrounding the Coso Artifact. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Figure 4 X-ray of a 1920s Champion spark plug provided by Chad Windham Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Figure 5 Analysis of the original Coso Artifact X-ray. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Not a goodie. The thing was never dated using modern methods involving radioactive decay. Now it's not even available to test. http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/coso.html
And what, IYO, would the new equipment bring to light. Meanwhile another sparkplug to look at. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
OK, guys. How did the sparkplugs get a half inch of rock around them since the 20s? Or are you suggesting it's all been faked?
I'm not suggesting it's fake, only that the presence of a rock-like mass doesn't always mean something is old.
When something is fossilized it's organic parts have been replaced by minerals. No such thing happened with the spark plugs. The 'rock' looks more like rust to me.. to be honest.
Yeah, there aren't too many "organic parts" on a sparkplug, so it's a bad choice of words on my part.
These are two different sparkplugs, BTW. Any theories on how the thick ass "rust/rock" wrapped itself around a spark plug? When things rust they usually disintegrate, not grow in size.
It could be part of the engine it was screwed into, but the rest rusted away. Since the artifact is unavailable to science, all we can do is speculate.
Um..You've never replaced your sparkplugs have you? Only the threaded end goes into the engine, not the entire plug. "Maybe the engine melted around the plug." maybe, but I think we're getting further from the answer. The link you provided abou the first plug says it was a "clay like" rock that surrounded it.
Maybe, who knows? If the creationists that "found" it would submit it for analysis, this could be cleared up in a matter of days.
Could easily be some sort of mineral concretion. They can form pretty rapidly given the right conditions. I agree with spidergoat though- submitting it for analysis would clear up the matter. As long as it's locked away no one will ever know. I would still like to know how this is supposed to invalidate any dating technique.
THis supposes that Creationists are interested in rational debate. I have yet to meet any that do not, after you have demonstrated them to be wrong multiple times, give up on rational debate altogether.
When I was a kid we grew "rocks" in a little bowl, from a commercial kit that was advertised like "sea monkeys" or an ant farm or a chia pet - some kind of chemical deposition, which would form around objects in the bowl and so forth. Took a couple of weeks. I have noticed hard depositions like that around pieces of metal left in clay acid bogs in northern Minnesota, especially near springs - the chemical environment of a spring in a bog can be wild; in some the water comes out all full of iron and copper and other metals and organic acids, but deoxygenated, and as it picks up oxygen and stuff these chemicals precipitate in sequences of colorful deposits, even building up on objects in the flow.
