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Old 03-23-07, 01:50 PM
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For example there could be a scientific paper published in German its totally useless to a Punjabi unless its translated. But if everyone spoke the same language, you could read the paper and instantly approve of it or dismiss it as you understand it.
Most science is published in English.

In the old days there was more published in german, french and such. But back then this wasn't really a problem either because they were all educated people.

And before that there was of course latin and greek.
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Old 03-23-07, 02:02 PM
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How dull the world would be without all the different languages.

Efficiency has nothing on beauty, intrigue and mystery.
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Old 03-23-07, 02:04 PM
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Let me introduce you to a word: Esperanto.

And let me introduce you to its outcome: bollocks.

Now go introduce yourself to a Baccardi Breezer. Or, if you're feeling particularly gamey, maybe a wine spritzer. Go easy on the hard stuff though.
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Old 03-23-07, 02:14 PM
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How dull the world would be without all the different languages.

Efficiency has nothing on beauty, intrigue and mystery.
So we should say fuck it for the sake of beauty let people with aids die? How absurd!
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Old 03-23-07, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by spuriousmonkey
Most science is published in English.

In the old days there was more published in german, french and such. But back then this wasn't really a problem either because they were all educated people.

And before that there was of course latin and greek.
But my point is not that. My point is anyone will be able to read it. All humans speaking the same languages. You don't have to be a scientists to discover a problem in a scientific paper. You also don't need to be a sentiist to advance a scientific theory. Its really simple really.

It also has other benefits also.
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Old 03-23-07, 02:19 PM
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Let me introduce you to a word: Esperanto.

And let me introduce you to its outcome: bollocks.

Now go introduce yourself to a Baccardi Breezer. Or, if you're feeling particularly gamey, maybe a wine spritzer. Go easy on the hard stuff though.
I would actually give a fuck about your opinion if you did actually refute my theory.
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Old 03-23-07, 02:20 PM
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The mere thought of Muslim thinking in bed is enough to make me tingle.
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Old 03-23-07, 02:21 PM
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I would actually give a fuck about your opinion if you did actually refute my theory.
He did.
Do you know what Esperanto is?

It is a new language that was started from scratch.
Perhaps you should look it up, before attempting to denigrate someone else.
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Old 03-23-07, 02:22 PM
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The mere thought of Muslim thinking in bed is enough to make me tingle.
Really?
It made me feel a little nauseous.
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Old 03-23-07, 02:28 PM
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He did.
Do you know what Esperanto is?

It is a new language that was started from scratch.
Perhaps you should look it up, before attempting to denigrate someone else.
Well now I do as I looked it up on wiki. Seems like poor leadership it didn't work out. You need to have money and know the right peoples. If I was a dictator I would make it compulsory for everyone to learn this language. You have to be assertive, beat people up if necessary you have to be ruthless.
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Old 03-23-07, 02:29 PM
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Well now I do as I looked it up on wiki. Seems like poor leadership it didn't work out. You need to have money and know the right peoples. If I was a dictator I would make it compulsory for everyone to learn this language. You have to be assertive, beat people up if necessary you have to be ruthless.
Yes.
All in the name of "progress"!
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Old 03-23-07, 02:29 PM
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But my point is not that. My point is anyone will be able to read it. All humans speaking the same languages. You don't have to be a scientists to discover a problem in a scientific paper. You also don't need to be a sentiist to advance a scientific theory. Its really simple really.

It also has other benefits also.
Although scientists write in English normal people still don't understand their language. Usually scientists go through a decade of study (or longer) before they master it themselves.
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Old 03-23-07, 02:30 PM
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Really?
It made me feel a little nauseous.
The thought of some other posters thinking in bed would make me nauseous. I'll leave out names.
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Old 03-23-07, 02:31 PM
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The thought of some other posters thinking in bed would make me nauseous. I'll leave out names.
Oh, he's not the ONLY one.
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Old 03-23-07, 02:34 PM
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Language itself is a barrier for pure conveyance. Not only are there differences between languages, but the use of language is like a shortcut that leaves out most of the truth of the matter. If we could somehow relate by coveying pure experience, then there could be no lying, no decieving, no hate, no misunderstanding.
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Old 03-23-07, 02:37 PM
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Oh, he's not the ONLY one.
Picture BR in his stained tighty whities with the big red elastic band wrapping around his ample soft, pasty tissue, long gray hairs growing like feral wheat on the prairie, hands locked behind the head revealing bushy, fragrant gray underarm pubes, large moles and a scaly rash. Toes wriggling with their yellowed uncut nails all twisting into a stretch to reach the donut holes on the bed table. I think I'm gonna Barf!
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Old 03-23-07, 02:40 PM
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Yes.
All in the name of "progress"!
Yeah. As it helps people. If we had a boat and we had to row really fast to get to the shore and then there was a lazy basted on board who didn't want to row. And was slowing us down what would you do? Am sure as hell I could give him a good kicking up the ass.
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Old 03-23-07, 02:44 PM
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Picture BR in his stained tighty whities with the big red elastic band wrapping around his ample soft, pasty tissue, long gray hairs growing like feral wheat on the prairie, hands locked behind the head revealing bushy, fragrant gray underarm pubes, large moles and a scaly rash. Toes wriggling with their yellowed uncut nails all twisting into a stretch to reach the donut holes on the bed table. I think I'm gonna Barf!
Have you ever thought about dressing up as a girl?
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Old 03-23-07, 02:45 PM
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Have you ever thought about dressing up as a girl?
Only for you. I be your bitch! Yes?
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