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Old 04-03-03, 09:05 PM
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Am I allowed to add the proton and neutron at the beginning of the periodic table just to satisfy 2n^2
so instead of having :-
2,8,8,18,18,32,32,50,50.....
we get :-
2,2,8,8,18,18,32,32,50,50.....

Would this effect any of the current mathematics involved in the periodic laws?
Would the 2 new periods work within the current mathematics, the proton would have -1 electrons and the neutron 0 electrons.

All the elements except the proton have a zero-distance electron shell, an atmosphere, which is why the neutron and proton have no electrons but different charges, god knows how you'd fit it into equations if at all.
James R's Avatar James R
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Old 04-03-03, 10:00 PM
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The periodic table is structured according to the configurations of electrons around the nuclei of atoms. Nuclear configurations are a completely different kettle of fish.
kaduseus's Avatar kaduseus
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Old 04-04-03, 07:51 PM
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But if they are part of chemistry, ie deutrium then they should be put on the chart.
I'll have to make my own chart I guess.

When you add them to the chart, you can then arrange the chart in a way to fit an x^2 parabolic curve, the groups then fit parabolic curves as well.

Just as an exercise, add the proton and neutron to the periodic chart and compare them to the stellar periodicity, is there a correlation?

I get 4 plasma/light gas type planets, 4 inner asteroid belts, 4 medium gas type planets and 4 outer asteroid belts if the planets have a correlation.

It might not be scientific, since pluto is a planet(yeah right), but it is interesting, to me anyway.
hlreed
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Old 04-05-03, 10:00 AM
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To Pythagoras 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 = 10 showed all the known planets at that time. The planets and chemistry do not care how you describe them.
If you can make the math stick, good. If not, you learn something.
James R's Avatar James R
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Old 04-06-03, 11:03 PM
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kaduseus:

<i>But if they are part of chemistry, ie deutrium then they should be put on the chart.</i>

Deuterium is an isotope of hydrogen. What you want is not a periodic table, but a table of isotopes (which you can find on the web and elsewhere).

<i>When you add them to the chart, you can then arrange the chart in a way to fit an x^2 parabolic curve, the groups then fit parabolic curves as well.</i>

I don't understand what you mean by this.

<i>Just as an exercise, add the proton and neutron to the periodic chart and compare them to the stellar periodicity, is there a correlation?</i>

How do I compare them? Where do I add them? Your explanation is unclear.
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