Wikipedia protest shutdown

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  1. Gustav Banned Banned

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    excellent
    we all now a lot dumber now thanks to adoucette and his mpaa goons
     
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  3. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    Poor Wiki.

    At least Google wasn't so stupid.

    Though I thought it was pretty funny, Google went right along with Wikipedia in the run up to this, but then just put a black banner on their site.
    But then, since they compete with Wiki as an information portal and today they are OPEN FOR BUSINESS.
     
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  5. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    Nah, you manage that totally on your own.
     
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  7. scheherazade Northern Horse Whisperer Valued Senior Member

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    Source-Wikipedia

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative/Learn_more

    Annoying colors added by myself.

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  8. Trooper Secular Sanity Valued Senior Member

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    Good morning and thank you, Scheherazade. Your ability to pay attention to detail does come in handy.

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  9. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    LOL, so they wimped out and didn't actually go through with the Blackout after all?

    That's hilarious.

    I'm not going to use them today anyway, which is no biggy, because even using other search engines besides Google, all the information I've been looking for has been easily found outside Wiki.

    Maybe Wiki will learn something today as well, that not everyone supports theft of other's creative output.
     
  10. Trooper Secular Sanity Valued Senior Member

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    You can also just hit the ESC key.

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    As the site starts loading, hit the ESC key and the good old home page will appear. When you type your search data into the form and hit the enter key, you must also hit the ESC key again.
     
  11. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    Even more hilarious.
    They backed off their so called Blackout by allowing a single key stroke?

    Thanks, but since I don't agree with them I'm not using them today.

    And I bet they do see a significant loss of hits, and associated revenue.

    And loss of revenue based on creative content is what this is all about and so they totally deserve it.
     
  12. michael_taylor Registered Senior Member

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    Surely you're not pretending sopa did that?
     
  13. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    That was it's intent when it was proposed.
     
  14. scheherazade Northern Horse Whisperer Valued Senior Member

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    Actually, I think Wikipedia is doing a fairly brilliant communication strategy.

    They are directing all who use their services to their information page on this issue.

    After reading through it, they describe the work around they have enabled. Mobile devices and Smart Phones are not affected.

    They are effectively informing a far greater portion of the population about the nature of this issue than the general media will be reaching. People are jaded by politics. No matter who you vote for, the government gets in.

    Wiki is not punishing the users of their service. They are merely trying to inform them, as I see it.

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  15. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, "we just want you to see OUR VERSION of the truth" says it all.

    The fact is they threatened a black out and wimped out says more about where their priorities lie.

    $$$$
     
  16. scheherazade Northern Horse Whisperer Valued Senior Member

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    Isn't the whole movement to regulate the internet about money, merely clothed in 'principle'?

    I came across another site that was also going along with a voluntary blackout.

    http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/

    Unless people (and businesses) have either something to gain or lose, they generally will not engage 'just on principle', in my observations, which admittedly are limited by my location and general lack of interest in what 'the crazies' are doing.
     
  17. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    Well there is a difference between making money via producing content and making money via piracy.

    Both are about making money, but they are not at all the same thing.

    The fact is, that page is the only page on Wiki that isn't editable.

    It should have a big banner saying "it's neutrality is questioned"
     
  18. parmalee peripatetic artisan Valued Senior Member

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    Of course, Arthur has never (or NEVER, rather) posted links to sites which stream copyrighted content sans permissions, right?

    Presumably, this (amongst countless other such instances) is but an example of Arthur's account being hacked by some miscreant--or is Monty Python and the Holy Grail now in the public domain?
     
  19. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    No I expect the content creators will make money from it.

    http://www.youtube.com/t/copyright_owners

    As to "countless other instances", while I may have slipped up occasionally (who doesn't), I would not knowingly link to a site that did not provide renumeration for copywrite holders.

    But interestingly, that is NOT the point of the proposed legislation.
    It isn't going after someone who links to a video, it's focused on stopping the sites that stream this data.

    YouTube has always been aware of copywrite and has provided renumeration.

    Indeed, if you post a video on you-tube and it goes viral You-Tube will send you a check.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/27/technology/personaltech/cashing-in-on-your-hit-youtube-video.html
     
  20. parmalee peripatetic artisan Valued Senior Member

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    And you actually believe that this happens, even in a simple majority of such instances?

    Second question, who are the "originators?" You seem so passionate about this issue that I expect you are intimately familiar it--so, who are these "content providers" and "originators" you're so keen on "protecting"?



    Right.

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  21. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    YES

    You-Tube makes it quite clear to content providers how to cash in on their property.

    Or do you also dispute the NYT article?

    The people who creatively create the content or those they sell the rights of that content to.

    Yes RIGHT.

    Parmlee if you have any evidence that I'm in anyway making money off anything I've posted, or in anyway helping others to pirate content then POST THAT EVIDENCE or STFU.
     
  22. parmalee peripatetic artisan Valued Senior Member

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    So when some kid posts a clip from a Monty Python, I assume that you accept that this kid probably hasn't gone through the proper channels, right? So it's up to someone else--presumably with a relation to the "originators"--to keeps tabs on this shit. Well, the internet's kinda big, no? And that's an awful lot of work. I can't even keep track of my own material that is posted without my permission (and neither do I care, but that's another matter), and I'm fairly confident that Monty Python is a good deal more popular than I am--you can see where I'm going with this, right?


    Any idea as to which group is reaping the greater profit, the former or the latter? Does this even factor into your concerns?



    I haven't suggested that you personally are profiting, merely that you are complicit in allowing others to profit.
     
  23. parmalee peripatetic artisan Valued Senior Member

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    Also, I would like to see some evidence supporting your contention that copyright holders are in fact compensated for what is posted on YouTube in at least a majority of instances.
     

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