Star Wars vs Star Trek

Discussion in 'SciFi & Fantasy' started by Pollux V, May 9, 2002.

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Which universe would win?

  1. Star Trek

    227 vote(s)
    35.5%
  2. Star Wars

    268 vote(s)
    41.9%
  3. Spaceballs

    47 vote(s)
    7.3%
  4. Farscape

    12 vote(s)
    1.9%
  5. Dune

    50 vote(s)
    7.8%
  6. Stargate

    36 vote(s)
    5.6%
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  1. Flectarn Unregistered User Registered Senior Member

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    WHAT death star. they had a death star for all of like 2 months. and IT was the secret
     
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  3. SkywalkerJedi アスラン・ザラ ( Athrun "Alex" Zala ) Registered Senior Member

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    They had to built the prototypes first. They had the Death Star for 20 years, it is just not operational as a superweapon, it is operation as a base, drydock and troop carrier. If they exaggerated it Bothan spies will steal the technology.
     
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  5. SkywalkerJedi アスラン・ザラ ( Athrun "Alex" Zala ) Registered Senior Member

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    He don't know because the Imperial Navy didn't tell him. It is call secret.
     
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  7. Flectarn Unregistered User Registered Senior Member

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    That is an incredibly stupid sort of secret... to not tell your officers the sort of firepower their weapons possess...
     
  8. SkywalkerJedi アスラン・ザラ ( Athrun "Alex" Zala ) Registered Senior Member

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    Why does a TIE pilot need to know that?
     
  9. SkywalkerJedi アスラン・ザラ ( Athrun "Alex" Zala ) Registered Senior Member

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    At least I have a good and valid reason.
     
  10. FoolFromHell Photons be Free. Registered Senior Member

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    Message inside the quotes.
     
  11. SkywalkerJedi アスラン・ザラ ( Athrun "Alex" Zala ) Registered Senior Member

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    Sun Crusher can withstand anything but the dark side of the force. It can even withstand being in the middle of a sun.
    Lieutenant TIE pilot is a small rank. He doesn't know the power of the Star Destoryer, and he didn't even know that they are building a Death Star.
    How did you think they got out of tatooin's double suns?
    He never witnessed it's firepower in action.
    Anakin Skywalker was never born "normally", he is a pure vessle of the force, so he is "born" by the force via Shrim Skywalker. The force cand replace Shrim Skywalker with pretty much anyone so there is no way to stop him. Anakin Skywalker can see the short future (I mean about 30 seconds ) with exterem detail without knowing so, thats why he have really fast reactions, and he can see the very distance future in a accuate and special way. Anakin Skywalker is invinciable and omnipotent after he forfilled his destiny, when he is a force ghost he can do anything he wants but the will of the force forbidds him from interfering with the future and the Skywalker family destiny, but he will defend the Republic in the will of the force. Anakin Skywalker can easily defeat Q by removing his powers. Don't tell me he can't because he can.
     
  12. Flectarn Unregistered User Registered Senior Member

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    because an ISD's weapons are going to be in roughly the same class as an mon calamari cruiser, which will be shooting at him, he will be firing at, so he'll need to know what it takes to bring down the shields, and which will be shooting at the frackin' ISD he's based on.
     
  13. SkywalkerJedi アスラン・ザラ ( Athrun "Alex" Zala ) Registered Senior Member

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    Han Solo left the Imperial Navy years before the Rebellion vs the Empire.
     
  14. FoolFromHell Photons be Free. Registered Senior Member

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    He CANT, damn it.

    Q can destroy every single ship in the Galaxy. If Skywalker could do that, he would have.
     
  15. TW Scott Minister of Technology Registered Senior Member

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    We have seen no evidence that Q can destroy even ONE ship. All we have seen him do is Time Dilation, Induce Hallucinations, Transport Self and objects and rearrange molecules. Everything he does in Star Trek is easily done by technology the Federation has. except Time Dilation of course.
     
  16. TW Scott Minister of Technology Registered Senior Member

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    Wrong again. As we have seen in the shows there are ships nimble enough to dodge phaser fire. Also phasers have completely missed ships that were not even doing 700 meters a second in open space.

    Incorrect. First of all ISD maximum range is well in excess of 50,000 kilometers. Second ISD Shields would easily be able to repel the vastly weakened Phaser blasts. (Remember that Phaser blasts have reduced power at further ranges.) Third the ISD could plot a hyperspace mini jump and come out firing. Infact they could plot a series of jumps to jump to point blank, fire then jump back. Especially against such an inferior foe.
     
  17. TW Scott Minister of Technology Registered Senior Member

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    First of all you need eight Species 8 starships and the one special ship, of which we never saw another one, to each of the super weapons. Second the weapons would need to be able to penetrate the shields. A Death Star can take a hit form a Death Star and it is arguable that a Eclipse or Executioner could as well. Finally the ships would have to survive Imperial fire, which is unlikely as normal Federation and Borg weapons could destroy the bioships.

    however Species 8472 is unlikely to enter the fray as the Imperials are not invading their space and di not use biowarfare against them. In fact they are MORE likely to help the Imperials agianst the Borg and Federation in order to absolutely ensure the destruction of the harmful nanotech.
     
  18. FoolFromHell Photons be Free. Registered Senior Member

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    He is omnipotent... He can do anything. And even if he cant, he can teleport Federation ships anywhere or sent SW ships to the middle of nowhere or inside a Sun.
     
  19. TW Scott Minister of Technology Registered Senior Member

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    The ones in the main series were enough to make Data look like a play toy. LOL.

    Actually there were several Battlemoons scattered throughout the galaxy. Palaptine just loved the idea of mobile space stations.


    Q like Anakin's ghost will not be a part of this war. The Q would see it as a Civil war and thus just entertainment. And Anakin would see no reason to enter.


    Actually it is 8 normal bioships and one abnormal bioship. We did not see a repeat of said effect anywhere else or even heard it mentioned. it might have been just as rare as the Death Star.

    As for th power levels the Death Star is much more powerful than the effect seen in Scorpian and even if the Borg worlds have shields, Species 8472 would have ignored those shields. Alderaan had sheidls as powerful as Coruscant's. You could have dropped a moon of Alderaan and the only result would have been a spike in power use as the shield vaporized the moon.
     
  20. TW Scott Minister of Technology Registered Senior Member

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    We have NEVER seen him do anything godlike with his supposed omnipotence. If he could teleport the Federation ships anywhere why didn't he just take Yoyager home?

    Everything Q does could be done by transporter, hypnosis machine, flux capacitor and replicator. Like I have said many, many times they are just very very technologically advanced.
     
  21. Flectarn Unregistered User Registered Senior Member

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    Ummmm... Q who....

    Q snapped his fingers and sent the enterprise careening 10's of thousands of light years to go meet the borg

    http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Q_Who_(episode)

    *edit* i guess it's actually 7,000 ly *shrug* still pretty darn far
     
  22. TW Scott Minister of Technology Registered Senior Member

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    Yeah and it seemed to be his limit if you notice. If he really wanted them to meet borg he should have sent them farther. However he did this to teach Picard the error of human arrogance.

    He still not likely to involve himself in a human vs human war unless it is to start it.
     
  23. Flectarn Unregistered User Registered Senior Member

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    maybe, it's been a while since I've seen the episode...

    i'd grant the second point to you... of course there seem to be tons of omnipotent, or nearly omnipotent beings lurking about the milky way, it'd only be a matter of time before the empire managed to rub one of the the wrong way
     
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