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Old 11-03-09, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by anuraganimax
The theories today are based more on deductions(weakest of scientific methods) and on speculation.
Woud the theory of evoluton be an esample of what you'r talkin about.???

Is free will somptin you'r glad you have.???

Ya its probably the only thing which you can use against fate.
How do you use it agans fate.???
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Old 11-04-09, 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by cluelusshusbund
Woud the theory of evoluton be an esample of what you'r talkin about.???
No I'm talking about the subatomic physics.
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Old 11-04-09, 12:05 AM
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Is free will somptin you'r glad you have.???

Ya its probably the only thing which you can use against fate.
How do you use it agans fate.???
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Old 11-04-09, 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by anuraganimax
No I'm talking about the subatomic physics.
What scientific subatomic theory is based on deductions and speculation.???
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Old 11-04-09, 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by cluelusshusbund
What scientific subatomic theory is based on deductions and speculation.???
You can find many skeptics of the quantum theories, special relativity and the standard model of matter on which modern physics is built.
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Old 11-04-09, 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by cluelusshusbund
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Is free will somptin you'r glad you have.???



How do you use it agans fate.???
Remember it was only about yes and no. And I said yes.
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Old 11-04-09, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by cluelusshusbund
What scientific subatomic theory is based on deductions and speculation.???

Originally Posted by anuraganimax
You can find many skeptics of the quantum theories, special relativity and the standard model of matter on which modern physics is built.
Skeptics are a dime a dozen escept for the ones who can walk-the-walk wit facts... an i still dont know of any subatomic scientific theory which is based on deductons an speculaton.!!!

Origonaly posted by cluelusshusbund
Is free will somptin you'r glad you have.???

“ Ya its probably the only thing which you can use against fate. ”
How do you use it agans fate.???

Originally Posted by anuraganimax
Remember it was only about yes and no. And I said yes.
What do you mean by "fate".???
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Old 11-04-09, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by cluelusshusbund
Skeptics are a dime a dozen escept for the ones who can walk-the-walk wit facts... an i still dont know of any subatomic scientific theory which is based on deductons an speculaton.!!!
The people who I'm talking about can give models on par with the established ones but are still called cranks.... You can't really understand what I'm talking about as you have no background with physics.
And fate is something about where are you are born rich or poor, healthy or disabled. Basically something which you have no control over. Something almost all of us detest some of the times...... A brutal taskmaster whose job is to test the will power.
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Old 11-04-09, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by anuraganimax
You can't really understand what I'm talking about as you have no background with physics.
Well nevermind then.!!!

Originally Posted by anuraganimax
And fate is something about where are you are born rich or poor, healthy or disabled. Basically something which you have no control over.
I thank humans are totaly controled by genes/enviroment... do you ever do anythang that ant influenced by you'r genes or enviroment.???
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Old 11-05-09, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by cluelusshusbund
Well nevermind then.!!!



I thank humans are totaly controled by genes/enviroment... do you ever do anythang that ant influenced by you'r genes or enviroment.???
The genes and environment are also part of this fate....."You" were probably born as a healthy person but what if you were not? The "you" I'm referring to is the soul not the body. Your soul cannot control where you'll be incarnated on the mortal coil probably. I can cite many examples from my own life of my actions which are not influenced by my genes/environment. I refrain to kill even trees,insects or animals. I do not so because of this weird feeling in my chest which occurs whenever I kill a living thing be that a human or an insect. Nobody has ever told me that it is wrong to do so and I do not think that I got this sort of thingy from my genes either.
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Old 11-05-09, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by anuraganimax
Your soul cannot control where you'll be incarnated on the mortal coil probably.
What is a "mortal coil".???

I can cite many examples from my own life of my actions which are not influenced by my genes/environment.
Give a specific esample.!!!
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Old 11-05-09, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by cluelusshusbund
What is a "mortal coil".???



Give a specific esample.!!!
That was specific enough. Right now under my desk I can see an ant which I won't crush.
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Old 11-05-09, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by anuraganimax
Your soul cannot control where you'll be incarnated on the mortal coil probably. ”
Origionaly posted by cluelusshusbund
What is a "mortal coil".???


...do you ever do anythang that ant influenced by you'r genes or enviroment.???

“ I can cite many examples from my own life of my actions which are not influenced by my genes/environment. ”
Give a specific esample.!!!

Originally Posted by anuraganimax
Right now under my desk I can see an ant which I won't crush.
But the very genes you have is what allowed you to see the ant... an the fact that you'r enviroment contaned an ant was a cause in you'r typin what you did... so how was you'r reply to me not influended by you'r genes an enviroment.???
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Old 11-05-09, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by cluelusshusbund
Origionaly posted by cluelusshusbund
What is a "mortal coil".???


...do you ever do anythang that ant influenced by you'r genes or enviroment.???



Give a specific esample.!!!



But the very genes you have is what allowed you to see the ant... an the fact that you'r enviroment contaned an ant was a cause in you'r typin what you did... so how was you'r reply to me not influended by you'r genes an enviroment.???
But its up to me to kill it or not.
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Old 11-05-09, 03:24 PM
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But its up to me to kill it or not.
What do you mean by "me"... you'r sole.???

Originally Posted by anuraganimax
Your soul cannot control where you'll be incarnated on the mortal coil probably. ” ”

posted by cluelusshusbund
Do you not want to tell me what a "mortal coil" is.???
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Old 11-05-09, 05:54 PM
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No, at least it's highly improbable. They would need artifical feelings and nerves which would be near impossible to inject or put into a robotic being.
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Old 11-06-09, 12:29 AM
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in order for robots to make ethical decisions means that we have to understand the electronics of their program , aside from the program of ethics built into their program

could not a situation arise where the program of ethics was stressed to the point where the electronics learned and therefore changed the response of the robot to a situation

hence thought , outside the box so to speak

I know this may seem irrelevent

playing a chess game many yrs ago , and after playing the same move , several times , the chess game finally anticipated my move , it learned
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Old 11-06-09, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by cluelusshusbund
What do you mean by "me"... you'r sole.???

Originally Posted by anuraganimax
Your soul cannot control where you'll be incarnated on the mortal coil probably. ” ”

posted by cluelusshusbund
Do you not want to tell me what a "mortal coil" is.???
By mortal coil I meant the physical and material world we reside in.
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Old 11-06-09, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by anuraganimax
But its up to me to kill it or not.

Originally Posted by cluelusshusbund
What do you mean by "me"... you'r sole.???
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Old 11-06-09, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by anuraganimax
But its up to me to kill it or not.
*yawn* I'm getting tired of this...
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