Can a house build itself?

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  1. eScrewDotCom Registered Member

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    If the house can NOT build itself what are the chances that life can build itself?

    What is easier to create house or life?

    Don't you think that before life was created INTELLIGENCE had to exist?

    Let's call it "Great Intelligence".

    If "Great Intelligence" decided to create something what do you think would be the purpose of such creation?

    Don't you think that all life is by design?

    Imagine that you ARE the Great Intelligence and there is NOTHING around you. There is NOTHING to do. What would be the reason for the creation of life?

    Do you think that "Great Intelligence" is stupid to create something without a purpose?

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  3. Persol I am the great and mighty Zo. Registered Senior Member

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  5. eScrewDotCom Registered Member

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    This question is related to the question what came first, the chicken or the egg?

    The answer is - neither. The First was Intellect, who developed Itself and then designed Life.

    Intellect is the only thing in the Universe that truly develops ITSELF. Examine how has your own intellect has developed. Note that Intellect is not a material thing - it is an ability to process information and draw conclusions.

    Scientifically speaking, the probability of Intellect developing Itself is INFINITE number of times GREATER than the probability of an atom (or anything material, including life and the Universe) making itself.
     
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  7. orange Registered Senior Member

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    Life did develop by itself. I did after billions of years on planet Earth, without the use of a 'Great Intelligence'.

    It's called 'brain'.
     
  8. Persol I am the great and mighty Zo. Registered Senior Member

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    Originally posted by eScrewDotCom
    Intellect is the only thing in the Universe that truly develops ITSELF. Examine how has your own intellect has developed. Note that Intellect is not a material thing - it is an ability to process information and draw conclusions.
    Um, are you really stupid? Your example is intellect developing FROM material. Not intellect 'developing itself'.

    Has your intellect decided it doesn't want to develop itself?
     
  9. orange Registered Senior Member

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    Hehe, that was a good one..
     
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    Is this some kind of weird bot?
     
  12. eScrewDotCom Registered Member

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    Is it SO hard to stay on topic?

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    Christio-Regurgito-Roboto . . .
     
  14. Persol I am the great and mighty Zo. Registered Senior Member

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    I wasn't aware there was a topic. Only an unsubstantiated claim by you about intelligence.
     
  15. SoLiDUS OMGWTFBBQ Registered Senior Member

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    I have also read THE FREEDOM OF CHOICE by Thomas Chalko...

    Unfortunately, as much as we would like to, no one will be able to
    go beyond the moment of creation and see what WAS; if anything.
    I agree with his premise that intelligence had to exist before the
    house could be built, but the question arises and begs to be asked:
    how did consciousness emerge ? From necessity ? Nothingness just
    reckonized itself and proceeded from there ? I'm not quite sure how
    to answer the question but I would really like to believe physical
    life has a purpose and that a creational entity is behind the creation
    of our universe... but until then, I will simply marvel at the fact that
    I have consciousness and exist.

    Alcohol and thinking is a dangerous mix...
     
  16. Morteza Olangui Enemy of the people Registered Senior Member

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    The riddle

    hello!
    Khayam, the Iranian wise poet has something as follows:
    Neither you nor I know the mystries of the beginning.,
    This riddle can not be solved neither by you nor by me,
    Behind the scene, they are talking of you and me,
    And when the curtain falls, there will be no you and me.
    I wish I could get his message across better.

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  17. Persol I am the great and mighty Zo. Registered Senior Member

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    Your message came across very well.
     
  18. ripleofdeath Registered Senior Member

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    Can a house build itself?


    make itself with nothing but what it is not
    only having all that it cant be yet

    hhhhmmmm
    now theres a thought

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    groove on

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  19. Sky Registered Senior Member

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    <<Imagine that you ARE the Great Intelligence and there is NOTHING around you. There is NOTHING to do. What would be the reason for the creation of life?>>

    Give freewill and watch !!
     
  20. Persol I am the great and mighty Zo. Registered Senior Member

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    I find that giving money works much better.
     
  21. wesmorris Nerd Overlord - we(s):1 of N Valued Senior Member

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    Intellgent design is nothing but anthropomorphisation - understandable, but intellectually vacuous. It rests on the presumption that you can interpret the will of a designer that you've never met. That might work from human to human, but from human to X, the only answer is: Indeterminant.

    Actually, IMO there is little more contemptuous behavior in regards to the concept of god than to pretend you can understand what it's thinking or what its intent might be. In fact, to claim the existence of god is to abandon the good sense a theist would claim he gave them. The very definition of the concept renders it beyond confirmation.
     
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  22. Ancient_Yesterday251 Registered Senior Member

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    Anyone else care to note that a house is a terrible metaphor for life?
     
  23. Roman Banned Banned

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    Turtles grow their own shells: that's a house building itself.
     

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