Unmanned Sub Tracker - Testers Wanted

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  1. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    Doesn't aluminum seem like a bad idea for the hull?
     
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  3. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    I believe the ADCAP was made so that it runs up along the side of an enemy submarine parallel to it before turning 90 degrees straight into the midsection of the submarine, hitting the thinnest part of it's armor.
     
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    interesting fact, did you know that submarines can travel faster underwater then above?
     
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  7. Shogun Bleed White and Blue! Valued Senior Member

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    Armor is useless in the face of modern air power.
     
  8. ULTRA Realistically Surreal Registered Senior Member

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    Aluminium makes for quite a lightweight and very strong construction. Excellent for boats, but pricey. The Finnish navy have built modular ships, that can be altered for specific services. Traditional armour used to get in the way, making vessels heavier and less versatile. Now they can be made stronger, lighter, even Stealthy as with aircraft. Aluminium actually burns quite well, so they equip them with radar controlled miniguns, rockets and a heap of electronic warfare technology.
    I was even asked to fit an electrically operated mortar I'd built to a boat once, you could probably spread chaff with it!
     
  9. Shogun Bleed White and Blue! Valued Senior Member

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    No, it is brilliant due to its weight/strength ratio.
     
  10. Shogun Bleed White and Blue! Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, in the modern age due to its hydrodynamic teardrop shape.
     
  11. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    Not the strength, but the radar visibility.
     
  12. Shogun Bleed White and Blue! Valued Senior Member

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    They can use geometry and anti-radar paint ( forgot what it is called ) to compromise. However, I don't believe the entire hull is aluminum, it is coated with something else, but I'm not sure.

    Anyways, a ship is visible enough as is.
     
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  14. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    Seems like brutal overkill.
     
  15. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    Ah, passive acoustic, and non-acoustic. I didn't say the non-acoustic was passive,....

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  16. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    I'm guessing by acoustic you mean sonar right?

    I can't imagine a submarine using a MAD system.

    Although I do think it would be prudent to outfit a tomahawk cruise missile with a MAD sensor and program it to fly around where you think the enemy sub is.
     
  17. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    Side scan RADAR and satellite imagery. Correlate data from devices in the water with those above.

    Ask yourself, does the submerged bow wave from a submarine travelling a few hundred metres below the surface leave a detectable impression on the surface, or make a significant difference to the shape of the waves where it meets the surface,....
     
  18. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    Not really no.

    Most submarines can't even communicate while submerged below 20 meters without a buoy.


    Even then its only a one way transmission from the surface to the submarine.
     
  19. ULTRA Realistically Surreal Registered Senior Member

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    Subs used to use ultra-long wavelengths for communication as it suits the aquatic environment. These days I wouldn't be surprised if comms were digitized, coded, compressed and delivered via what we used to call a "databurst" designed to be untraceable. The systems I was familliar with used a one-time-pad for secure comms. It was a good system, I wouldn't be surprised if it was still used.
     
  20. Shogun Bleed White and Blue! Valued Senior Member

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    Well, it really depends on a lot of factors.
     
  21. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    Er dude?
     
  22. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    Phlo, water isn't exactly the best environment to transmit radio messages in.
     
  23. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    Er dude? Did I say the vessel doing the detecting was a sub?
     
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