Star Wars vs Star Trek

Discussion in 'SciFi & Fantasy' started by Pollux V, May 9, 2002.

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Which universe would win?

  1. Star Trek

    227 vote(s)
    35.5%
  2. Star Wars

    268 vote(s)
    41.9%
  3. Spaceballs

    47 vote(s)
    7.3%
  4. Farscape

    12 vote(s)
    1.9%
  5. Dune

    50 vote(s)
    7.8%
  6. Stargate

    36 vote(s)
    5.6%
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  1. SkywalkerJedi アスラン・ザラ ( Athrun "Alex" Zala ) Registered Senior Member

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    Gosh idioit! Open Circle is the fleet that defened Coruscant in revenge of the sith, it is not EU it is in the movies! geez! Death Squdron is the large fleet that kept the rebles from escaping! they are not EU! if the starship are waiting to defend earth there will be hundreds of Star Destoryers ready to invade earth! and bare in mind that hyperdrive is MUCH faster, they can travel the galaxy in 1 day to 3 days. If they destory earth and vulcan, the other systems will be afride and act to the republic or empire's demands! The EU is canon they are approved by George Lucas. you are forgetting about the superlaser aborde the Eclips-class Star destoryers.If EU is non-canon so is the Star Trek T.V. shows, because the creator of Star Trek died abord a rocket.You are forgetting that they can make 1 Death Star in less than 3 years, so if the war last for 6 years the Empire can make 2 death stars. The Federation is so crupt that systems want to leave. the only example of systems leaving the republic is the CIS, the CIS is manipulated by Sidious or afride of the droid army. For Star Trek you can leave when every you want where every you want. That is disorder for, for the republic you are not leaving without a trial in the senate or you are not leaving without a fight.
     
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  3. SkywalkerJedi アスラン・ザラ ( Athrun "Alex" Zala ) Registered Senior Member

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    nope, the federation simply don't have the brains for it.
     
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  5. SkywalkerJedi アスラン・ザラ ( Athrun "Alex" Zala ) Registered Senior Member

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    nope, the death star can fight at ranges of tens of thousands of milles. and Star destoryers fought in hundred of km in ROTJ
     
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  7. Flectarn Unregistered User Registered Senior Member

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    Star Trek was first and for most a TV show, aired starting in 1966, then in 1980 came the motion picture, followed by a series of additional movies. then in 1987 Star Trek the Next Generation aired, all of these were produced personaly by Gene Roddenbary, as was the earlier Animated Series. so at the very least all those things are cannon by the original creator rule.

    DS9, Voyager, Enterprise and the Next Generation Movies, are all cannon by the fact that they are produced by the liscence holder, paramount, and by the production staff chosen by Roddenberry before he died (of an illness, however his ashes were sent into orbit)

    what are you talking about the federation being corrupt and systems trying to leave it? are you thinking of the Maquis? because half the republic seems like a more serious disagreement then a few colonies that fell on the wrong side of the border a treaty established
     
  8. Flectarn Unregistered User Registered Senior Member

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    well the death star is sort of an exception

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGMvadAFqLQ

    don't see alot of ship to ship fire... but the ranges don't seem to be in the hundreds of km, at best a couple score
     
  9. SkywalkerJedi アスラン・ザラ ( Athrun "Alex" Zala ) Registered Senior Member

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    You are forgetting that Yuzhang Vongs are Star Wars race too! let see the Federation fight aginst their ships! you can't jam their senors because they are organic!ha ha. you can't kill them with one shot because they have superstrong armor! you can't hail them because you they are organic ships! you can't board them and surrive because the ship have automatic blastdoors and razerbugs that can kill them. you can't negociate with them, because they don't understant english! you can't see them on Federation senors, because they are organic! the only reason that star wars senors can pck them up because of Danni Quee and many others scientist that almost been Vongformed and lived to tell the tale. You can't blast their ships because they are too fast! you can't surrive an attack because they have huge numbers! you can't parry their attack because they use very fast razer bugs, firejelly( it is made out of plasma ) and amistaffs that will chop you into little peices! You can't expect to invade them because Zommama Sekot and Yuzhaa'tar and Zomnama Sekot( they are living planets ) will defend them with the force! you can't live to tell the tale because they will scarifice you to their gods! If you wonder if this is canon, George Lucas approved it to be canon and it dosen't disagree with the movies nor did it interfer with it's time line, it explains alot of things that happened off screen.

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  10. SkywalkerJedi アスラン・ザラ ( Athrun "Alex" Zala ) Registered Senior Member

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    thats youtube everyone can make stuff up on it and they are not supposed to fire they are supposed to stop them from escaping
     
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  11. SkywalkerJedi アスラン・ザラ ( Athrun "Alex" Zala ) Registered Senior Member

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    well thats not true the republic stood for 1000 years without people leaving because of the curroption of the senate or it's govening body, and you can find the EU in lucasfilm's www.starwars.com they are planning to make it into a lucasfilm star wars TV Show
     
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  12. SkywalkerJedi アスラン・ザラ ( Athrun "Alex" Zala ) Registered Senior Member

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    Star Wars movies are so better, thats why there is more Star Wars fans than Star Trek fans. and Star Wars music is alot better ( Across that Stars, and Battle of the heroes )
     
  13. SkywalkerJedi アスラン・ザラ ( Athrun "Alex" Zala ) Registered Senior Member

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    The currpt Federation have no senate, it is ruled by a persident that have all authroity, the republic is ruled by the surprem court and the surprem chanceller. the currpt Federation have no intergalactic police, the republic have the jedi as intergalactic police. the currpt federation have no residence for it's senators to stay in the capital, the currpt federation concil's members don't have a equal view of the leader, but the republic senate has. the federation concil barly held any meetings in the film, but the republic has!
     
  14. Hellblade8 Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, because we know the UFP has never gone to war before! Oh, wait...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCm70favfYI

    They have.
     
  15. SkywalkerJedi アスラン・ザラ ( Athrun "Alex" Zala ) Registered Senior Member

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    Ya, but not as grand as the republic's wars. And they don't do it imediately, they negotiate!Republic Negotiate too in a special way. the senate talks and the army fights.
    At least they have an Grand army of the Republic to back them up when negotiations don't suceed! The Republic have the brains to get ready an army before negotiating incase if somthing gose wrong
     
  16. Flectarn Unregistered User Registered Senior Member

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    Federation COuncil serves as the legislature, there is also a federation judiciary
    Starfleet
    it probably does, but it's not terribly important
    huh?

    it's only met a few times that it's been seen, the shows about star fleet not the federation government.

    Stop Saying the federation's corrupt
     
  17. Hellblade8 Valued Senior Member

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    Somehow, being called an idiot by a twerp who can't use proper grammar is somewhat amusing.

    No, you must prove it using canon sources, do not just say it. PROVE IT.


    They don't KNOW where Earth is. Furthermore, there are stations AROUND the planet, not to mention planetary defenses. DS9 alone had 5,000 photon torpedoes, giving them a total storage of 410,000 megatons, or 410 gigatons. And that was an upgraded Cardassian station.


    Prove it. Prove it right now. I provided evidence that says it isn't, so you must prove that it is.

    If not, you will conceed the point.


    Bullshit, Paramount has declared that all episodes of ST (save for the animated) are canon, as are the movies. They own Star Trek, and thus they have the right to determine canon. George owns Star Wars, and thus he has the right to declare canon.

    Also, your argument is retarded.

    So what? The Death Star is a amazingly stupid idea of basicly putting all your eggs into one basket, with a horrible weakpoint. Not to mention, that the UFP has their own high level weapons, such as a bomb capable of blowing half the atmosphere off a planet.


    Evidence? Only a few planets left when they didn't want to give up their homes for during a peace treaty with the Cardassian Union that the UFP only signed because they didn't want to go to war. It had nothing to do with corruption, and it was a few planets. These planets didn't hate the UFP, but only left it because they wanted to fight the Cardassians. They performed terrorists attacks, and were viewed as vermin among most people.

    In essence, aside from that minor incident, no one has ever left the Federation.

    :bugeye:

    The Rebels wanted to overthrow the Empire, and the CIS was gone before the Empire came into existence you idiot.

    Unlike the UFP, they won't have to worry about that little issue. You see, when the cats are away, the mice will play. In other words, the Empire would be fighting a front on both sides; the rebels, and the UFP (and their allies).
     
  18. Hellblade8 Valued Senior Member

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    They are EU. They will remain EU and non-canon because George said so. They are not part of his story, or his world.


    Ever hear of species 8472? The ones that can blow up entire planets by linking the firepower of nine of their ships together? Yeah, Voyager killed them with nanoprobes.

    The UFP uses Universal Translators, which can translate just about any language perfectly according to canon (it failed on one species, but that wasn't becuase they couldn't understand the words, but they just didn't get how the race used them to speak).

    If that were true, than Voyager wouldn't have detected bioships in scorpion. Or life forms whenever they visit a planet. Or scan things.

    No really, what are you smoking?

    Please, masturbation is somewhat silly, and isn't a good method for a debate.

    Sorry, but I don't wonder...I KNOW they are not canon. It was declared as such by George fucking Lucas. I posted the link and the quote. This has been shown to you three times. If I do not see a response to this soon, I will assume you conceede the argument, and merely show you the quote as proof of your stupidity.
     
  19. SkywalkerJedi アスラン・ザラ ( Athrun "Alex" Zala ) Registered Senior Member

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    You call Star Trek Deep Space Nine: Sacrifice of Angels full scale? that is only a couple thousand ships fighting! New Republic's First fleet, Empire's 1st fleet, Empire's main fleet, Empire's death squdron, galactic republic's open circle, galactic republic's 1st fleet are all larger than that! Take a look at the clone wars, and the second battle of coruscant, fall of coruscant, battle of courscant in the Yuzhang Vong war. Note that fall of coruscant and the battle of coruscant in the Yuzhang War are novels. The grand army of the republic is built by ONE system in 10 YEARS, the starfleet is over 100 years old, and it is smaller than the grand army of the republic! the armies in the clone wars are only a decade old, and they are much larger! Star Trek Deep Space Nine: Sacrifice of Angels is not a full scale war compared to the wars in Star Wars. first it has to be intergalactic, second it have to have ground combat, third it have to last more than a month ( clone wars lasted 2 years ) forth, it have to have a offical surrender, and lastly it have to have more than 10,000 ships.
     
  20. Flectarn Unregistered User Registered Senior Member

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    Not to mention those space native life forms they encounter every once and a while... the ones that always seem to want to suckle of the warp core
     
  21. SkywalkerJedi アスラン・ザラ ( Athrun "Alex" Zala ) Registered Senior Member

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    Nope if it is non-canon it would of been cancelled how do i know your quote is reliable? species 8472 is species 8472, Yuzhang Vong are Yuzhang Vong, Yuzhang Vongs have superstrong airtight blasterdoors! they can't get through. Yuzhang Vongs have the World Brain, it can change a dessert unhabitable planet into somthing like Earth, it can chage everying of the planet! Bioships, Yuzhang Vong ships are completly organic.for the translators, they can't speak Yuzhang Vong because they don't speak! they use Vongsense ( telephic commuitcation ), you still can't jam them! you still can't beat them! And you are forgetting Zomnama Sekot and Yuzhaa'tar! thouse planets can use the force1
     
  22. SkywalkerJedi アスラン・ザラ ( Athrun "Alex" Zala ) Registered Senior Member

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    they don't need warpcore they have darkspace ( their way of saying hyperspace ) hyperspace or should i say darkspace is much faster than warp, it can go across the galaxy in 1 day-3 days. They are extragalactic even to the Star Wars galaxy.
     
  23. SkywalkerJedi アスラン・ザラ ( Athrun "Alex" Zala ) Registered Senior Member

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    Starfleet is not a police force, they don't do around arresting people, do they? do they investiate theivery? no! if the federation is not corrupt why the Maquis leave?
     
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