Atheism is a belief.

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by Tht1Gy!, Nov 3, 2007.

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I know how to use a dictionary.

  1. Yes, and I incorporate its info.

    57.1%
  2. Yes, but I still like to make up definitions as I go along.

    20.4%
  3. No, I believe in "Truthiness"

    34.7%
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  1. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    Agnostics are on the fence for areason. They don't feel they have enough data either way. And that's a fair thing. Atheists have personally come to the conclusion that there is zero credible evidence for a god thingy. Agnostics are not "without god" or "with god". They're not sure. Atheists are sure. There is no credible evidence for a god thingy.

    This is NOT saying categorically that there is no god thingy. We could find compelling evidence tomorrow that the universe is an "artificial" construct. The current state of things is that there is absolute no evidence that exclusively demonstrates that to be the case. This is why we are atheists.

    You can quibble definitions all you want. Atheists are with out god(s). We have no use for what is, by all standards of evidence and reason, a human myth. But we no more categorically state that a god thingy absolutely does not exist than we do for alien intelligence on other worlds.

    You must get that now, right?

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  3. Myles Registered Senior Member

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  5. Tht1Gy! Life, The universe, and e... Registered Senior Member

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    Say what??:wallbang

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  7. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    You heard me. Respond to the content of my post, then we'll see.
     
  8. Tht1Gy! Life, The universe, and e... Registered Senior Member

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    Right. With the evidence, you believe there is no god.

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  9. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    Noooo... With the lack of evidence, I do not believe in a god(s).

    Must I use littler words for you?
     
  10. wesmorris Nerd Overlord - we(s):1 of N Valued Senior Member

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    I think a true agnostic is necessarily athiest. Yup.

    (not positive athiest, just lacking belief)
     
  11. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    lol fair enough.. it was good while it lasted :bawl:
     
  12. Myles Registered Senior Member

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    Which suggests that a false agnostic is a theist ?
     
  13. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Or a positive atheist I suppose.
     
  14. Tht1Gy! Life, The universe, and e... Registered Senior Member

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    Try reading all my posts in this thread. Cuz I ain't saying it a'gin.
    And yeah I heard you, I'm just incredulous you have resorted to name calling. I didn't realize we were on the playground.

    And, I'm not the one telling you that the dictionary is wrong. Hmm?
     
  15. Tht1Gy! Life, The universe, and e... Registered Senior Member

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    epistemology |iˌpistəˈmäləjē|
    noun Philosophy
    the theory of knowledge, esp. with regard to its methods, validity, and scope. Epistemology is the investigation of what distinguishes justified belief from opinion.
    Version 1.0.2 (1.0.2)
    Copyright © 2005 Apple Computer, Inc.,

    This might be of some use.
     
  16. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    No way. If you're afraid to respond to my questions and maybe clear up a misunderstanding or two, then you've clearly been beaten.

    Nuff said.
     
  17. Tht1Gy! Life, The universe, and e... Registered Senior Member

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    Read The Dictionary!!!
    And:
    If you want to go Greek; agnostics are "without knowledge". Sometimes stated not as "I don't know", but rather "It's unknowable" OR to join the two: "It's unknowable, ergo I don't know". Which, if one truly wants to be logical, is the position to take.

    ... that you accept.

    And I believe you meant "conclusively", as the big word you used, in this context, makes no sense.

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  18. Tht1Gy! Life, The universe, and e... Registered Senior Member

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    Not afraid, weary. :wallbang:

    ... and beaten? By you? Got any more of those drugs?:bugeye:
     
  19. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    Clearly I'm trying to goad you into at least an attempt to answer some of my questions.
     
  20. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    No. I meant exclusively. As in excludes all other possible explanations leaving only god as the result. Dig?
     
  21. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    Fuck the dictionary. If that's the game you want to play, I'm done.
     
  22. wesmorris Nerd Overlord - we(s):1 of N Valued Senior Member

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    yes, "true" was superfluous. sardonic correction accepted.

    and yes I suppose so.
     
  23. wesmorris Nerd Overlord - we(s):1 of N Valued Senior Member

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    Different breed than theist, but same error in judgement IMO.
     

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