Star Wars vs Star Trek

Discussion in 'SciFi & Fantasy' started by Pollux V, May 9, 2002.

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Which universe would win?

  1. Star Trek

    227 vote(s)
    35.5%
  2. Star Wars

    268 vote(s)
    41.9%
  3. Spaceballs

    47 vote(s)
    7.3%
  4. Farscape

    12 vote(s)
    1.9%
  5. Dune

    50 vote(s)
    7.8%
  6. Stargate

    36 vote(s)
    5.6%
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  1. TW Scott Minister of Technology Registered Senior Member

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    really, so now you are completely ignoring ignoring the "The Survivors" and Empire Strikes Back. Okay, you are now cutting your own throat on the credibility.
     
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  3. TW Scott Minister of Technology Registered Senior Member

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    It hit a glancing blow at slow speed on a good shield which it trashed. And this was after the ship had been pouring all of warp into her shields to survive.

    Yeah and in DS9 a 2500 tons space craft destroyed the Odessy in one ram. More than twice similair craft flew through Klingon vessels destroying them.


    Oh, so Janeway is the kind of idiot who flies into a plasma/ion storm with her shields down? I don't think so.

    But in a Intrepid vs Galaxy class fight you would have to give both the same upgrades to maintain the fairness of the fight. There is no way a stock intrepid could take out a stock glaxy class, unless you didn't put a crew on the galaxy class

    Also with the Borg, their weapons are designed to weaken shields and degrade hull. They don't go for destruction. They want to assimilaiate. Of course the Borg had a problem with armor that kept rereplicating material. They weren't getting anywhere. There is no doubt either that given time the Borg would have woree out Voyager's power supply. Then the ship would have been toast.

    An ISD would not have an issue. Just one of them has more power than 900 glaxy class starships.When the Empire or New Republic was done, the Borg would just be a foot note in history.
     
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  5. TW Scott Minister of Technology Registered Senior Member

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    You have yet to provide the required math to prove this. Show where a single Phaser shot lasting one fifteenth of second has vaporized 6 to 8 times the volume of a 100 meter diameter asteroid.


    Is your real name Scoooty? And why do you talk to yourself if it is?


    Go back to the very first post this was canon ST vs canon SW. Meaning ST get movies and shows and SW gets movies and EU. You don't like it, that's tough, go cry a river.
     
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  7. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    The time difference is seconds man... seconds from initial blast from the surface to Voyager passing under it.

    Even solar flares don't move fast enough to be "millions of miles" away in seconds... after all, matter cannot physicly move light speed can it

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  8. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    Scott... the Ent-E HAD NO WARP ENGINES... their warp core went down ont he first shot.

    THE ENTIRE COMBAT SCENE WAS ON AUXILIARY POWER!

    Yeah... hate to burst yer bubble, but watch the scene over again!
     
  9. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    Scott, the Borg have weapons to cut the ship in HALF for gods sake! They have torpedo's of their own and they have powerful weapons able to obliterate planets when species are too big a threat.

    And the Delta Flyer could put out more power than your ISD mate. Matter/AntiMatter reactor > Fusion/Fission reactor (power of a star statement anyone?) anyday!
     
  10. USS Athens Very Special Senior Member Valued Senior Member

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    How?

    TW Scott, I've got to get back on the shields, if SW shields are so good, than how did that A-Wing get through the Executor's bridge so quickly?
     
  11. USS Athens Very Special Senior Member Valued Senior Member

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    Now What?

    I don't see what your talking about regarding the Scimitar vs. the Enterprise-E and the Voyager opening theme.
    :shrug:
     
  12. USS Athens Very Special Senior Member Valued Senior Member

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    jeez...

    An Imperial star destroyer uses a Fusion/Fission reactor?

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    I thought the IMPs at least more advanced than that... (Although any technical readout for SW ends up being extreamly over powerful)
     
  13. USS Athens Very Special Senior Member Valued Senior Member

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    Duh!

    Remember, in space, there is NO weight. And making that Jem'Harder Destroyer sound bigger than it really is sad. So making a Galaxy-class starship look like it was designed by a bunch of nut boxes huh? (Though, in my point of view, the people whom designed the Imperial-class star destroyer were nut jobs.) Remember, the Odessey was really destroyed when the ship rechicheaed off the secondary hull, and hit the starboard nacelle, is what caused the incident.

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  14. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    So what? There's still mass, momentum and kinetic energy. All of which are related to the nominal weight.
     
  15. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    Star Wars is quoted as saying their core can generate power "as that of am million suns" according to Scott.

    This implies Fusion or Fission.

    And the Oddessy was destroyed when the warp core breached on the Jemhadar ship and, as a result, took out the nacell and the rest of the ship.
     
  16. USS Athens Very Special Senior Member Valued Senior Member

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    ???

    True, there is kenetic energy, but who is measuring it in tons?:shrug: I don't remember any warp core explosions, but I havent seen that DS9 episode for a while, so I must be off.
     
  17. USS Athens Very Special Senior Member Valued Senior Member

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    Death Star?

    Regarding the pride and joy of the Galactic Empire, the Death Star, why do SW fans make such a big deal out of it? Let's create a little situation, the Rebelion appears in front of it. They have no idea what to do because they are not very good problem solvers. So they get blown to kindom come. But what if just any ship from the Federation appears in front of it. They will scan the DS's layout and realize that the Superlaser fires in only one direction. So they move to the other side of the DS and out of range of the surface turrets (not that lasers would affect a standard Starfleet shield) and scan for a weak point. (Depending on which Death Star) they would scan and find the weakness. If it was the first one, they would use either Photon, Quantum, and if at all possible, Transphasic torpedos on the thermal exaust port. If it was the second DS, they would send Peregine class attack fighters and if Tom Paris ever proposed it, Delta Flyers and basically blow it up.

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  18. USS Athens Very Special Senior Member Valued Senior Member

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    Death Star?

    I'd like to see a SW fan deflect that one.
     
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  19. USS Athens Very Special Senior Member Valued Senior Member

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    Death Star?

    And why are Storm Troopers such a bad shot?
     
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  20. Mr.Spock Back from the dead Valued Senior Member

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    wow, this thread is still alive.
     
  21. USS Athens Very Special Senior Member Valued Senior Member

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    Death Star?

    They could aim at someone and give them a new definition of silhouette.
     
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  22. USS Athens Very Special Senior Member Valued Senior Member

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    Death Star?

    Either that or "Vaders Fist" is very shaky from drinking.
     
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  23. TW Scott Minister of Technology Registered Senior Member

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    Well, first of all the Executor was under heavy concentrated fire from more than 30 capital class starships. Then an X-wing managed to get in a lucky strike against the communications and sensor dome after the shielding in that area collapsed. The two events led to the deflectors for the bridge going down. In turn lead to the slightly damaged A-wing penetrating the defensive fire and crashing through the bridge. Which in turn caused the ship to acceralte and collide with the Death Star II when the auxillary control could not gain control within fifteen seconds.
     
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