What if God is actually evil?

Discussion in 'Religion Archives' started by pluto2, May 11, 2010.

  1. John99 Banned Banned

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    Someone asks a question and i answer. I didnt say that i believed in God or i didnt, just making the point and it is a fair point.
     
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  3. John99 Banned Banned

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    I thought you were referring to me:

    Was not till afterwards that i figured it out, it wasnt clear that all.
     
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  5. John99 Banned Banned

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    That is the best i can do.
     
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  7. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Again, can you read? I quoted the post I replied to. How on Earth could you think I addressed that to you?
     
  8. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    The best you could do is shut up.
     
  9. John99 Banned Banned

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    all right...i got confused, jeez.
     
  10. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    I was trying to buiild on your response to Pluto2. If God were not at least to some degree evil while being omniscient and omnipotent, why would he/she build imperfections or evil into his/her world?
     
  11. John99 Banned Banned

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    My response was 9 and 11. 11 was a question, btw.
     
  12. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Well, the standard response of a Christian would be something like "To test your faith". I take it you've read the bible?
     
  13. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    In a perfect world created by a perfect being, why would faith need to be tested? Maybe the perfect being is not so perfect? And if imperfection translates to evil, then would God not be evil? And since our universe owes its existence to impefection, are we not also evil?
     
  14. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Perfect world? Where?
     
  15. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    I think you got my point.
     
  16. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Well, the Stockholm syndrome comment was something of a joke really

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  17. John99 Banned Banned

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    And if every time someone picked up a brush they painted the Mona Lisa?
     
  18. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    I kind of thought so.
     
  19. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    And that John is the point most often used to justify imperfection. Can perfection exist without imperfection? Are they not just two sides of the same coin?
     
  20. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Very feasible, although I would call this type of God a god. Like Jehovah(god of the bible) for example, could be an evil god.

    I think we control our own actions, no one else, we might get influenced but no god or God is typing this to you.
     
  21. pluto2 Banned Valued Senior Member

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    Even if God does give us some reward for good behavior, this means that it's still beyond your control. Everything which is beyond your control or when someone else who is much more powerful than you is controlling you or worse is taking your life while giving you nothing in return is not a good thing in my opinion unless it is some sort of process of becoming part of God or actually working together with God and leaving this earthly life and the human form forever.

    I think that living forever on Earth in human form is the real Hell unless you are freed from the human form and earthly life and either become a physical part of God or become some sort of God yourself, working togehter with God and becoming a force for creation.
     
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  22. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    You are a gnostic at heart.
     
  23. NMSquirrel OCD ADHD THC IMO UR12 Valued Senior Member

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    i have yet to hear someone say they want god to give them all sorts of grief and struggles so they can be a better person..

    i do not believe god totally controls us, he has given us free will..the ability to make our own choices..
    of course we still have no control over what he does to us..

    maybe thats why he created satan..so we would know what bad is..(oops..joe said that already..)
     

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