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  1. aaqucnaona This sentence is a lie Valued Senior Member

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    Then its working and its good news. [The public push towards rationality is finally achieving some results.

    Nah man - you seem like a nice guy. Ad homs would be very scarce on a forum like this. You are good but some of your ideas are unsubstantiated at best and ludicrous at worst. THEY, of course, get the short end of the stick, especially here, given that scientific scepticism is the definitive thing on this forum. No wonder literal, fundamentalist and creations arguments are ripped to shreads on this forum - reality has a very severe scientific and liberal bais afterall.

    Once you demonstrably prove them through substantiation, sure.

    And dont mind the little mosquitoes and bedbugs - they are just doing their job. LOL.
    Good nite.
     
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  3. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    Just google "supervolcanos".
     
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  5. HectorDecimal Registered Senior Member

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    Actually it's those blasted dust mites I've been battling. I suppose a new matress is in order soon.


    Don't get me wrong, here. I agree with Albert Einstein that imagination is more important than knowledge. Einstein was likely thinking of Michael Faraday when he said that. I'm thinking of Faraday as well, but I like to put a picture of Charlton Heston as Moses in front of that bunch.

    Now THIS thread IS about the poster. It's an intro. (Long one too...) I do believe in God and even in Jesus, but I DO work at validating my belief and if I find something that TENDS to do just that, I gleefully bring it to the table.

    I find the subject of hyperspace, as well as speculation of it's superpartner, hypospace, intriguing. This is where my research is heading this spring. I've had some success in preliminary experiments, so hope to advance those a bit. It's easier and requires less power than one might think.

    As for the religious scientifics or scientific enthusiasts here, it seems this forum invites them. Some of us are truly scientists applying their work to creation and abiogenesis concepts and comparisons. I think the religious trolls should be politely escorted out because it would make it difficult at best for someone like Walter Bradley, per se, to enjoy discussions in a mean spirited science forum. If the forum prefers atheists, it should say so.


    As for my being a nice guy, pretty much. I'm not a doormat though. I'm an extrovert who isn't above throwing a punch to the throat if needs be. After that, if it were to really happen, I'd take out my emergency surgical kit and perform a trachotomy on the person I subdued. That way it evidences self defense.

    Some people make verbal assaults that even generate panaceae attacks in certain others. To silence someone, in the 21st Century especially, with our knowledge of words as weapons, is a form of self defense.

    Most conspiracy theories don't prove out. Most isn't all. Some question Bob Lazar. Some question me. I don't think either of us really cares about that anymore. I know I care about assessing why this planet is shaking itself to pieces as of late and hope I can convince some people to prepare for all that in other ways than diving underground into a tomb they dub a "bunker." I don't believe Jesus is going to reach down with a human looking hand out of heaven and scoop up His followers. I believe He just might inspire a few, though, like Noah was inspired.
     
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  7. HectorDecimal Registered Senior Member

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    You brought it up. As I've been reminded, it's YOUR job to validate your claim and the "Journey to the Center of Yellowstone Caldera" thread is the place to validate it.

    Others would likely want to see that validated. I've been to Heidelberg, Frankfurt, was schooled in Wurzberg, lived in Marktsteff, made paintings of Nurnberg and the Meine(sp?) and St, Johann Austria, attended concerts in a variety of cities there and more. Yes, I'd like to see you bring that up in the proper thread.

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  8. aaqucnaona This sentence is a lie Valued Senior Member

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    In the process of doing that what exactly do you do to things that dont fit in? Ignore, rationalise, leave as unknown? As the holder of a claim [god's existence], it is, of course, your job to defend it with scepticism towards challenges and alternatives, but my question is whether you turn that backwards too and examine the claim with the intention of disproving it. That is the test of reality and relevance - when something stands upto the sceptic despite both the holder and challenger trying to disprove it, we can be pretty sure its real. I wonder if you do this, as gentle treatment of our beliefs can easily lead to bais. Finally, why do you believe in God? Why are you sure that He exists? Why do you think Christianity is the right one of all the religions? As an apatheist, I have come to the conclusion that there is no evidence that God exists and even if he exists, he in unlikely to be very relevant to us. As for religions, well, I dont really care much about them, I would go with 'opiate of the masses' as a description of religion. Thats interesting because most theists on this forum are not mono-religious fundamentalists/literalists or even moderates.
     
  9. HectorDecimal Registered Senior Member

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    Before I answer ALL of that, not that I'm a spelling troll, but I couldn't find apatheist. I found apathist, meaning one void of feeling.

    Proving God's existence is no different than proving the big bang as the correct version of the origins of everything. One can only go so far with it and there are many empty spaces in both arguments.

    As for a piece not fitting, it is like a puzzle of 2000 tiny pieces. One can try to force it somewhere, or set it aside till its proper place becomes axiomatic. I don't force the issue, but I reject the control freaks that demand a time limit, any production at all or threaten to crush you.

    Consider my age. I'm nearing 60. I've spent 40 some years studying gravity and even more studying magnetism and flight. Where my life is concerned, violent team sports don't fit, contrasted to my skills in martial arts. The latter fits because those who are literally "thinker thunkers" have a place in another life and don't fit in mine, so occesionally must be put in their place. They have bloodthirst. I do not, but am prepared to satisfy theirs if they insist. What fits in is learning with a specific dream in mind, still that quest is profliferous. Religion is one of those offshoots, but grew rapidly into a main branch of a multiplex quest for knowledge leading to that original dream.

    I began as an aircraft designer. I grew into a cosmologist necessarily to pursue that dream. To be able to manipulate the flow of gravity, one must first understand it no different than a motorist must understand the rules of driving or be banned from the street. We do not understand the rules of quantum gravity, so we are confined to travel by classic scale gravity.

    Einstein pointed out to us that gravity, time, space and light are all coupled into the same understanding. Kaluza and Klein pointed out that another dimension harbors the rules of all those streets. All of those dimensions are sympathetically manifest in the grand scale physics of all we see, feel, or otherwise sense, so the rules require thinking in all those dimensions and truly many more. When we open up that box of 2000 pieces, we have to believe we can assemble it into the picture on the box. We must have faith in our own skills to reason where each piece fits, so when we have faith in a religion, we are truly having faith in our own ability to reason.

    Imagine though, the challenge to reason is complicated because somehow we inheritted a puzzle with parts of the picture irrecoverably blurred, or perhaps intentionally blurred, or perhaps a better analogy, 10 possible pictures are on the cover to make us work harder to conquer the challenge. At first we go blindly on faith in our reason alone, then some pieces of the blurred area begin to take shape and we see a bit of how to interpret the blur. After repeating this process long enough, we get an idea for the colors and shapes of those parts of the scene and eventually we see it clearer as it fits together. That is the system of check and balnce you solicit.

    I believe as i do because I have vascillated enough times to compare the blurred areas and the real picture has finally revealed itself. Someone designed the picture. Others made the puzzle and supplied the tools to decypher it. In less analogous terms, the understanding of the 5th dimension pulls together the missing areas of the Bible and defines the others as incomplete, thus never to reveal the truth. The Bible is the picture that comes together, but Christianity has badly blurred the perception of what was intended.

    To teach one's views are to learn what one's views truly are. I don't mind having a boo boo pointed out, or some form of shortcoming. I do take offense to being slapped with it and I hit back, even though I really don't like to.

    Rationalize a fallacy? No. Discover why it is a fallacy? Yes.

    Classic physics demonstrates a larger mass will cool and contract long after a much smaller mass. Put a 2 gallon container of Jello in the fridge to gel next to a number of different sized cups and bowls poured from the same batch. I shouldn't need to tell you which will be ready for the whipped cream first.
     
  10. MacGyver1968 Fixin' Shit that Ain't Broke Valued Senior Member

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    Damn..82 posts in 2 days.
     
  11. HectorDecimal Registered Senior Member

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    Marking time till the cold subsides... brrrr! Consistently 65 deg f or above and I go to work on other things. It's only 40 at the moment...
     
  12. Liebling Doesn't Need to be Spoonfed. Valued Senior Member

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    Look at it this way, Macdarling...

    By my calculations on his posting rate, he will earn his first ban in approximately 83 days, and will be permanently banned by day 243 if he doesn't burn himself out before hand trying to explain his ideas vs. the tolerance for bullshit of the moderators on a science forum =)
     
  13. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    Morgen geht die Bombe hoch!
     
  14. HectorDecimal Registered Senior Member

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    Mein schon Liebling,

    Hast du angst fur Webster's Americanische Wortenbuch?

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    By my calculations, if I refrain from responding to trolling, I should do well.

    Since you mentioned that this is a science forum, in what scientific discipline are you articulate?

    Is it that difficult to see that what you call "my" ideas
    (thank you for such credit) are pretty much shared by others only using a different label?
     
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  16. Liebling Doesn't Need to be Spoonfed. Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, I do find Webster's dictionary highly suspect. Like the encyclopedia, it is fallible because it is written by fallible hands. Show me a book that isn't flawed.

    You underestimate the trolls on this forums, my dear. They get under your skin. I've rarely seen a poster uneffected.

    And my specialties are Sociology, Enviromental and Health Sciences. I merely dabble in the others for fun.

    I wasn't referring to your personal ideas, just of ideas in general. Not a persecution nor a personal statement, just an opinion through years of experience.
     
  17. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    Es gibt Bomben gegen jene keine Sicherheitsausrüstung hilft.
     
  18. HectorDecimal Registered Senior Member

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    Oh... Well that's different

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    A = without
    Theo = God

    ism = well... ism

    Do you believe there is no God?

    Those are interesting areas. It appears we have no geologists or Earth Science people of much worth. That area is very sparse

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    This subject may be of interest to you: Whether or not polution is the cause of global warming. There's quite a controversy over that.

    As for the trolls, I've dotted some eyes already. I'll probably do what I do to real life bullies after dotting one of their eyes: Ignore them till they apologize

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    Hi Wynn,

    I'm really pushing my Deutch here. My grammar ist schlecht, so we are best to carry on in English.

    I can't listen to the clip because my audio drivers are gone and it would cost me the price of a new MB to get them, so I'd rather buy the MB and have a new machine... but I'd probably not use it for the net.

    Honestly, though, I was hoping for some documentary and preferably in English.

    Donkey shorts just the same...

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  20. aaqucnaona This sentence is a lie Valued Senior Member

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    An apatheist is a non-believer who does care much about religion except maybe its practical effects in his life. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=momdjeHgBy4

    Except that one has a lot of evidence and the other seems to be be rather unbased so far.

    Not pushing towards a "God of the Gaps", I hope?

    Do you the go the step further an "withhold judgement or decision? A positive assertion like theism needs something to stand on, and its supports are quite vulnerable to scepticism and rational, critical thinking.

    While I appreciate your vision, I cant help but point out anything other than the pursuit of knoweldge for its own sake is bound to introduce foundational baises.

    Gravity has flows, like liquids? Aeroscience is about the manipulation of gases to enable non-terrestrial locomotion.

    There is a difference between the faith that apples will always fall or the sun will rise tomorrow and the faith that there is a supreme creator being who cares about and intervenes in the life of a single species of apes on a tiny little rock in the middle of nowhere. As FR put it - http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=2865945&postcount=3

    As a loose analogy, yes.

    Remember Rorschach?
    More -
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T_jwq9ph8k

    No one designed this - https://www.google.com/search?tbm=i...3522l0l3712l16l15l0l0l0l0l280l1807l0.7.3l10l0
    Normally, aritificial things show design while natural things show emergence.

    When the guy who sells the guns also makes medicines, you gotta get suspicious.

    I beg to differ - to understand other's views is to learn what one's truely are.

    You should take offense to that - afterall, you were wrong and that point is settled. If you take offense, you are feeding the trolling AND falling prey to your emotions where only your intellect should hold sway.

    The important bit comes next - willing to discard said fallacy and withold judgement and/or reject assertion?

    I dont see what you'r getting at.
     
  21. aaqucnaona This sentence is a lie Valued Senior Member

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    HD does NOT seem to be a troll - he's just radically unconventional.
     
  22. HectorDecimal Registered Senior Member

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    At least I'm not radically Islamic

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    (Quick! Where's the next 747... don't check my undies... Praise Allahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!)

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    (You do say to call you "penguin rech")

    Are you of a scientific discipline?

    THAT makes me wonder... :bugeye:


    Perhaps that has much to do with people not understanding all this stellar chronology stuff. The one's who are non-scientists have no concept of practical thermodynamics. That could cause a lot of defensive misunderstandings and such could be interpretted as trolling.
     
  23. aaqucnaona This sentence is a lie Valued Senior Member

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    LOL. But you ARE quite different.

    A joke to go along with that gun-wielding penguin.

    No.

    Agreed - which is why I stick to biology, philosophy and world events.
     
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