Star Wars vs Star Trek

Discussion in 'SciFi & Fantasy' started by Pollux V, May 9, 2002.

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Which universe would win?

  1. Star Trek

    227 vote(s)
    35.5%
  2. Star Wars

    268 vote(s)
    41.9%
  3. Spaceballs

    47 vote(s)
    7.3%
  4. Farscape

    12 vote(s)
    1.9%
  5. Dune

    50 vote(s)
    7.8%
  6. Stargate

    36 vote(s)
    5.6%
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  1. TW Scott Minister of Technology Registered Senior Member

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    Why didn't the Dominion or the Borg? They were in the right areas of space for Mr Uxebridge and the Organians. Yet not even a peep form either. Let's be fair and leave the omnipotent out of this, after all SW has more than few hundred itself and unlike ST they are proactive.

    So no worrying about Q, Uxebridge, Organians, Staff of Darkness. the Starplague, force ghosts or anything like that. Just the living and mortal.


    We will assume that living legends on each side get to duke it out head to head. Should be more interesting that way. I mean just imagine the Chewbacca/Worf brawl. Either with or without melee weapons it should be good.
     
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  3. FoolFromHell Photons be Free. Registered Senior Member

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    No we arent leavint the omnipotents out of this. They are part of the ST universe.

    They are already in this war. It is everything in ST vs everything in SW. INCLUDING OMNIPOTENTS. Too bad. It's unfair.
     
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  5. TW Scott Minister of Technology Registered Senior Member

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    Okay than SW wins hands down with the Staff of Darkness. We'll have a Sith acolyte hyperspace travel to the center of the Milky Way and release it. Entire Milyway galaxy devoured completely inside of a year.

    Wow that was fun, not.

    Besides Q and Species 8472 are not actually part of the ST universe becuase they hail from alternate dimensions.
     
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  7. FoolFromHell Photons be Free. Registered Senior Member

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    In that time, Q can destroy everything in the Galaxy Far Far Away and save the Milky Way.

    So? Hyperspace isnt part of the normal "universe"... Q and 8472 are still part of the Star Trek "Universe". As in, "canon". You takes things too literally. THIS kind of Universe. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fictional_universe

    Just like how the Mirror Universe is part of ST Canon and can participate.
     
  8. USS Enterprise-A Registered Member

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    So? Hyperspace isnt part of the normal "universe"... Q and 8472 are still part of the Star Trek "Universe". As in, "canon". You takes things too literally. THIS kind of Universe. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fictional_universe

    Just like how the Mirror Universe is part of ST Canon and can participate.[/QUOTE]

    I Agree.
     
  9. Hotspur Registered Member

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    Let's consider this scene logically for a moment.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V0XktZfE3I

    The scene in question starts at roughly the four minute mark: A shielded borg planet is destroyed by 9 vessels belonging to Special 8472--8 standard bioships and 1 special bioship apparently designed for energy focusing.

    The special ship is not noticeably larger than its counterparts. Its design is very similar to the standard ships, and its building materials are virtually identical. Consequently, it's highly doubtful that the special ship by itself could produce a beam substantially more powerful than a standard bioship.

    However, because I'm such a generous guy, I'll assume that the focusing effect is capable of amplifying the firepower of each ship by 10 fold (even though the characteristics of the final beam suggest a much lower amplification effect). Ten fold means that a single blast from a bioship contains 1/90 the power necessary to destroy a fully shielded planet; in effect, 90 standard bioships firing a single blast in unison would completely obliterate a fully shielded planet.

    Now, what did Han Solo say in ANH when he first saw the shattered remnants of a destroyed Alderann? He stated that destroying a planet would require "1,000 ships with more firepower than he'd ever seen."

    Well, guess what.

    We know for a fact that Han Solo had seen an ISD. In fact, two ISDs had chased him out of Mos Eisley just hours earlier. Therefore, going by the dialogue (which is never once negated by any visuals or future dialogue), we can reasonably conclude that the power to destroy an entire planet was well beyond the means of even 1,000 Star Destroyers working in unison. Meanwhile, a mere 100 bioships are more than capable of blasting a fully shielded planet into rubble.

    Advantage Star Trek, and it's not even close.

    Game over.

    Star Trek wins.

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  10. Saquist Banned Banned

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    That seems appropriate to the comparison antaran illistrated.

     
  11. FoolFromHell Photons be Free. Registered Senior Member

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    PLUS, in Part 2 of that episode, it was indicated that over 8 Borg Planets were destroyed this way.
     
  12. SkywalkerJedi アスラン・ザラ ( Athrun "Alex" Zala ) Registered Senior Member

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    Han Solo is an smuggler that quit the Imperial Navy before the war started, and Solo is just a low ranking TIE pilot.
     
  13. SkywalkerJedi アスラン・ザラ ( Athrun "Alex" Zala ) Registered Senior Member

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  14. Flectarn Unregistered User Registered Senior Member

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    Personally, i agree with you on leaving the omnipotents out... metaphysical battles are so much less interesting.
     
  15. antaran_1979 Registered Senior Member

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    "Phaser" is an acronym for PHASed Energy Rectification. All phasers fire particle beams.

    no speed of ligh there. actually since no particles buth photons and gravitons can move at c, it is impossible for phasers to be as fast. that's why the aper to have kinetic properties i guess.
     
  16. antaran_1979 Registered Senior Member

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    wasn't Solo an ex-imperial officer?
    as for all those srafty natuaral phenomena destroyers, they never apear on screen so we can't really estemate their abilities.
     
  17. antaran_1979 Registered Senior Member

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    i supose he never really studied military tactics or history either?
     
  18. antaran_1979 Registered Senior Member

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    ISDs (1&2) out gun the Victory and Venator by at least 2 to 1 in TLs.
     
  19. antaran_1979 Registered Senior Member

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    hah, why would an F-16 pilot need to know the guns on an Iowa class battleship? education and competence

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  20. SkywalkerJedi アスラン・ザラ ( Athrun "Alex" Zala ) Registered Senior Member

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    He is simply a ex-low ranking TIE pilot
     
  21. antaran_1979 Registered Senior Member

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    he seamed to be able to wipe out the entire human race... or was he bluffing?
    well if he did bluff, that alien from "survivors" didn't. he exterminated the entire Hushock race with a thought.
     
  22. SkywalkerJedi アスラン・ザラ ( Athrun "Alex" Zala ) Registered Senior Member

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    ISD 1 is out gunned by Ventors, but ISD II is better. Ventors and Victory outmanuver ISDs.
     
  23. SkywalkerJedi アスラン・ザラ ( Athrun "Alex" Zala ) Registered Senior Member

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    If Q is that powerful why didn't he stop the civil war within the Q race?
     
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