Star Wars vs Star Trek

Discussion in 'SciFi & Fantasy' started by Pollux V, May 9, 2002.

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Which universe would win?

  1. Star Trek

    227 vote(s)
    35.5%
  2. Star Wars

    268 vote(s)
    41.9%
  3. Spaceballs

    47 vote(s)
    7.3%
  4. Farscape

    12 vote(s)
    1.9%
  5. Dune

    50 vote(s)
    7.8%
  6. Stargate

    36 vote(s)
    5.6%
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  1. Ilithi_Dragon Dragon Overlord Registered Senior Member

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    Well, many have speculated that it works like the Alcubierre Drive, and I think the person who originally proposed the concept may have been inspired by musings on the Trek warp drive, but there are things the warp drive does and does not do that make the Alcubierre Drive an unlikely candidate for explaining how warp drive works.
     
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  3. Shogun Bleed White and Blue! Valued Senior Member

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    I don't know much about Trek so I can't really say.
     
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  5. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Originally (at least) Trek's warp drive was actually in real space as a real velocity.
    The pilot episode (later chopped about and shown as The Cage IIRC) used the words "time warp factor [whatever]". The drive "reversed the ship in time while it accelerated in space" so as to negate time dilation effects.

    I forget exactly where I saw this explanation, it may have been in Mr. SCott's Guide to the Enterprise but I'm no longer sure where my copy is...

    And IIRC the Alcubierre Drive does posit a "space-time" bubble around the ship, isolating it from the rest of the universe (and that pesky gravity gradient fore and aft), that was listed as one of the (several) problems with operating/ building it. Once inside that bubble the ship would have no idea where it was going

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  7. Saquist Banned Banned

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    Hey Kitt...
    Just checking in....
     
  8. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    Sup saquist?
     
  9. Shogun Bleed White and Blue! Valued Senior Member

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    From my memory, the Alcubierre didn't have a bubble. I might have missed it or remembered wrong.
     
  10. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive
    In fact the graphic usually shown to illustrate the drive shows a "bubble" (meh, okay "circle" on the graphic

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    ) i.e. space-time is flat directly surrounding the ship, as flat as it is outside the gravitational distortions.
     
  11. Shogun Bleed White and Blue! Valued Senior Member

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    Ah okay, I was mistaken my bad.
     
  12. Saquist Banned Banned

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    Just checking in on the old stompin ground.
     
  13. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    ah, hehe. It's been quiet.
     
  14. Saquist Banned Banned

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    Yeah, and the thread is the longest I've ever seen it.
     
  15. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    I just posted this on space battles:

    The Borg vs Anything of your choosing... however, the Borg get an upgrade:

    They assimilate the X-Gene from X-Men, and now every Drone has a mutation (random mutations all stem from the same X-Gene) ranging from Class 2 to Class 4, with the Borg Queen as the only Class 5 mutant.

    Who/what can withstand them now?
     
  16. Ilithi_Dragon Dragon Overlord Registered Senior Member

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    ........


    ..........

    There's a reason why Planet X is considered a scourge of the Star Trek novel franchise...
     
  17. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    Lawl, I try hard to forget that...
     
  18. Ilithi_Dragon Dragon Overlord Registered Senior Member

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    Apparently not hard enough.... } ; = 8 P
     
  19. ricrery Banned Banned

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    Let me guess, the authors don't understand physics like the writers for the show?
     
  20. Hellblade8 Valued Senior Member

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    No, because they wrote it like a shitty Star Wars novel.

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    No really though, it was just a bad book. Horrible fanfic crossover that somehow, for some reason, got published.
     
  21. Shogun Bleed White and Blue! Valued Senior Member

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    Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann time again........
     
  22. ricrery Banned Banned

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    Wrong. Xeelee could, though. They could kick almost any anime ass.
     
  23. Omega133 Aus der Dunkelheit Valued Senior Member

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    Umm, how about the actual X-Men?

    Gene Grey vs the entire collective. Game over man.
     
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