If a person has the IQ of say, a pig or cow, is it wrong to eat them? Why or why not?

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by Zap, Oct 15, 2009.

  1. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    No.
     
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  3. quadraphonics Bloodthirsty Barbarian Valued Senior Member

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    Hmmm... if "speciesist" isn't included in "invalid," why do you present it as a drawback?
     
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  5. John99 Banned Banned

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    wouldnt adults know about Kuru?
     
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  7. mike47 Banned Banned

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    Maybe they are GROSS to eat.......:roflmao::roflmao:.
     
  8. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Your confusing subjective with arbitrary. The two things are different.
     
  9. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Not really. The arbitrariness is because of the subjectiveness, Objectively there should be no difference

    e.g. there is a subjective reason why this upset you, but this didn't. Which explains your apparently arbitrary decision to challenge one but not the other.

    Apparently, like pork or veal, if experts are to be believed

    http://layscience.net/node/268
     
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  10. Randwolf Ignorance killed the cat Valued Senior Member

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    Specializing in tautologies today, Sam? What's on the menu for the morrow?
     
  11. ejderha Exhausted Registered Senior Member

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    :roflmao:
     
  12. Pandaemoni Valued Senior Member

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    The arguments are not "invalid" just because you don't like the conclusion. Even "speciesism" is not per se invalid as a point of logic. Nor is there even anything innately "invalid" about the position "I eat humans because I like the taste of them."

    The fact is that you draw an arbitrary line that allows you to eat plants and certain animals, and others draw a different arbitrary line (and because it is not based on the same nervous system-based criteria you prefer in your own line drawing, you reject their positions). (I also am sure that you dis agree with this, but it is arbitrary, in this case, because you could just as easily select any of a number of other criteria on which to base your decisions on which species are acceptable to eat and which not, rather than based on any trait which, objectively, needs to be considered in that decision.)

    You may feel that your line is better in that is is a less flexible standard than many other people hold, but in the context of arbitrary standards, it is not especially clear that rigid and consistently applied arbitrary standard is better than a flexible or oft-ignored one.
     
  13. Zap Facts > Opinions Registered Senior Member

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    Not personal concern, but interpersonal concern. I wouldn't want your mother to become the next happy meal - at least, not a literal happy meal. After all, she does seem pretty happy when people are eating her.
     
  14. swarm Registered Senior Member

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    She is dead.
     
  15. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    I already reported him, I suggest you do the same.
     
  16. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    reported him for what? :bugeye:

    If it ever came down to it, children, the elderly, and the disabled would be eaten first. In times of famine, there have been reports of cannibalism. I would imagine the mentally handicapped didn't stand much of a chance.
     
  17. Zap Facts > Opinions Registered Senior Member

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    Reported for reporting.
     
  18. Zap Facts > Opinions Registered Senior Member

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    Sorry I wasn't able to act in time.
     
  19. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Pandaemoni:

    We've done this before, haven't we?

    Correct.

    I have no idea what you mean by that.

    Not "invalid", whatever that means, but immoral.

    I don't draw an arbitrary line.
     
  20. Zap Facts > Opinions Registered Senior Member

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    Why is eating these sweet wittle piglets alright:

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    But not eating these?

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  21. Zap Facts > Opinions Registered Senior Member

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    Why is eating an innocent cow family alright:

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    But not eating the guilty?

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    Unlike cows, prisoners go out of their way to put on meat while incarcerated.
     
  22. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    I think you kind of missed his point. And it wasn't about that post alone, read the rest of his posts.
     
  23. swarm Registered Senior Member

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    It would have been fun watching her kick your ass.

    But by all means head to a hospital and test out your theories.
     

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