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hay_you
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Old Yesterday, 11:00 PM
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Trolling, again.
Reported, again.
It must be a pride thing.
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Old Yesterday, 11:06 PM
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No it's a "Sick of hearing the same "argument" over and over again when it's been shown to be wrong every single time it's been raised".
You don't read, you don't take in what's written and STILL keep coming back to the nonsense that's been shown to be nonsense.
hay_you
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Old Yesterday, 11:51 PM
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No it's a "Sick of hearing the same "argument" over and over again when it's been shown to be wrong every single time it's been raised".
You don't read, you don't take in what's written and STILL keep coming back to the nonsense that's been shown to be nonsense.
It has not been shown that I was wrong, I use the same information science uses, I also add evidence that science doesn't use, which they should use.

Dywyddyr, maybe I should ask, what is your connection to science? Are you a scientist, if so, what field of science do you work in?
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Old Yesterday, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by hay_you
It has not been shown that I was wrong
It has. Many times. (For example your oft-repeated statement that transitional forms haven't been found).

I use the same information science uses
If by "use" you mean "ignore" or " dismiss" then I'd agree with you. Otherwise no you don't. (For example your claim that what science says is a transitional form isn't).

I also add evidence that science doesn't use, which they should use.
You haven't added evidence, you've speculated based on a priori assumptions.

Dywyddyr, maybe I should ask, what is your connection to science? Are you a scientist, if so, what field of science do you work in?
I'm an engineer, with a basic grounding in physics (but have also done courses in/ and still read books on other sciences because I'm interested in science).
hay_you
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Old Today, 12:17 AM
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It has. Many times. (For example your oft-repeated statement that transitional forms haven't been found)
This is a mistake on what transitional means. It is the in between ones. Which in evolution means, the mistakes that would happen in between one animal and the next. For example, a whale with fins, at the middle of the sides. Now evolution doesn't know where to evolve to. So any placement would be random. Maybe further back toward the tail, or maybe on the top, or maybe place at different areas, on the whale. Evolution doesn't know that it is trying to make flippers up near the whales head. So the transitional ones are the ones that are in weird places that didn't work out. Also the configuration of the fins to flippers would have the same kind of errors until it got it right. These are the transitional ones. But none of these are found. What is found is completed flippers, in the right place near the head on the sides. There should be millions of these kinds of errors in the fossil record, and seen today. This goes for all parts of animals, the brain the nerves, muscles etc.
Evolution also would not know to stop, these transitional ones , should still be going on. But there are four legs under a dog, we don't see dog with 2 legs on top and two on the bottom, or all legs in different places. If a mutation does that, we don't see that passed on so that all dog are like that.
This is evidence this is what we see today, and in the fossil record.
So why is that?
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Old Today, 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by hay_you
This is a mistake on what transitional means.
And the mistake is yours.

Which in evolution means, the mistakes that would happen in between one animal and the next. For example, a whale with fins, at the middle of the sides.
Utterly wrong. You clearly have no idea how evolution works (but that's been demonstrated many times).
This is YET ANOTHER of your repeated idiocies that has been shown to be incorrect, and why it's it's incorrect.

So why is that?
Because you're an idiot and you ignore the actual meaning (and the explanations thereof).

More trolling.
hay_you
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Old Today, 12:22 AM
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I'm an engineer, with a basic grounding in physics (but have also done courses in/ and still read books on other sciences because I'm interested in science).
Ok I understand that. As an engineer you understand what it takes to build things that have a good out come. It takes experience and planning and good construction practices with good builders. You don't expect things to happen on their own. Man can't build with biology yet but he is getting close.It has taken many years to get to this point, and will take many more. If man does build something from this , you can't say it just happened, it would have taken many year of intelligent know how to do any of this.
hay_you
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Old Today, 12:23 AM
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Utterly wrong. You clearly have no idea how evolution works (but that's been demonstrated many times).
This is YET ANOTHER of your repeated idiocies that has been shown to be incorrect, and why it's it's incorrect.
In this example show me how evolution would work?
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Tethys (2,280 posts)
Old Today, 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by hay_you
Ok I understand that. As an engineer you understand what it takes to build things that have a good out come. It takes experience and planning and good construction practices with good builders. You don't expect things to happen on their own. Man can't build with biology yet but he is getting close.It has taken many years to get to this point, and will take many more. If man does build something from this , you can't say it just happened, it would have taken many year of intelligent know how to do any of this.
Strawman. (Repeated).
Still trolling.
And as an engineer I'm also aware of self-evolving equipment. (NASA's studies into wing shapes for example).

Originally Posted by hay_you
In this example show me how evolution would work?
Spidergoat went through it (as have others).
And you ignored it (and the others).
Still trolling.
The sooner you're banned the better.
hay_you
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Old Today, 12:33 AM
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Strawman. (Repeated).
Still trolling.
And as an engineer I'm also aware of self-evolving equipment. (NASA's studies into wing shapes for example).
What do you mean self_evolving wing equipment?
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Tethys (2,280 posts)
Old Today, 12:36 AM
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A wing (for an aircraft) that evolves its own most efficient shape.
hay_you
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Old Today, 12:41 AM
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A wing (for an aircraft) that evolves its own most efficient shape.
This is exactly what I have been talking about. This wing did not just happen. These scientist or engineers designed that wing and had other intelligence people build it. What part of that was did not require intelligence. The Wright brothers used deforming wings on their airplane, they had to do it manually , but still it took intelligence to do it.
This is exactly the same with the life we see. It can adapt to different situations, but that doesn't mean it wasn't built in the first place.

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Old Today, 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by hay_you
This is exactly what I have been talking about.
Wrong. Which part of "self-evolving" did you miss?

This wing did not just happen.
Yes it did.

These scientist or engineers designed that wing and had other intelligence people build it.
Nope.

This is exactly the same with the life we see. It can adapt to different situations, but that doesn't mean it wasn't built in the first place.
Nope.
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