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aadzy
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11-06-09, 12:06 PM
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the consciousness of presence of a physical or virtual thought or thing is existence...(according to me)....i am a newbie pls correct me if i am wrong somewhere ...
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Bishadi
just another person (2,607 posts)
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11-06-09, 04:56 PM
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i enjoy the esoteric (thanks for the twist of mind, and welcome to the show)
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Originally Posted by aadzy the consciousness of presence of a physical or virtual thought or thing is existence...(according to me)....i am a newbie pls correct me if i am wrong somewhere ...
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thoughts exist, think of them like colors of rainbow, but until imposed to mass (the clouds), the experience is often undescribable
sure the virtual idea virtually exists (daVince saw a plane and drew it) but could he put it to mass as nicely as boeing does?
the knowledge to describe the observance (idea) is often still in the evolving process
just as each experience life (the "i am"), but how to define it, is the chore
imagine one day, when each kid can understand what they are, as puppies
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Bishadi
just another person (2,607 posts)
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11-06-09, 05:01 PM
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i wanted to add aadzy...... you not wrong, EVER, for inquiring in my opinion
ie... you just as interested as every human being on the earth (was or will be at one time)
just be fair, and you, we, all.. can evolve a bit, perhaps with YOUR insite and ideas
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thinking
Registered Senior User (1,355 posts)
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11-07-09, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by aadzy the consciousness of presence of a physical or virtual thought or thing is existence...(according to me)....i am a newbie pls correct me if i am wrong somewhere ...
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as well , is the consciousness of the constiuents that of which you are made and the then awareness that these are then made in the Universe
then and only then can you understand , existence
Last edited by thinking; 11-08-09 at 07:59 PM..
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Bishadi
just another person (2,607 posts)
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11-09-09, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by thinking as well , is the consciousness of the constiuents........
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the constituents?
like the coherance of the body of cells?
kind of like each having a part as if 'duties' all contributing to the survival of the whole?
can you help with these 'ideas'?
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that of which you are made and the then awareness that these are then made in the Universe
then and only then can you understand , existence
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what kind of philosophy can be 'labeled,' for the depth of your 'thinking'?
"into the rabbit hole of comprehension"
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thinking
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11-09-09, 04:11 PM
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“ Originally Posted by thinking
as well , is the consciousness of the constiuents........ ”
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the constituents?
like the coherance of the body of cells?
kind of like each having a part as if 'duties' all contributing to the survival of the whole?
can you help with these 'ideas'?
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sure
what I mean is the constiuents that which gives the living body the ability to form in the first place , all minerals necessary to build a living thing , any living thing
and be consciously aware that this is true
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thinking
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11-09-09, 04:26 PM
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you see the thing is , as much as life is life , it still needs to draw in what the Universe provides in the way of a place to manifest , such as our planet and the constiuents for life provided by the Universe in order for life to manifest
do you see my point ?
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Bishadi
just another person (2,607 posts)
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11-09-09, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by thinking sure
what I mean is the constiuents that which gives the living body the ability to form in the first place , all minerals necessary to build a living thing , any living thing
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mass, energy, in time
when i hammer, i returned to atoms and energy rather than adam and eve
seems the rules must apply there before all else
then to comprehend how each work, then it seems life is just the energy upon mass that enables any to even combine to make molecule number 1
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and be consciously aware that this is true
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make sense
teach the little ones at a real young age, and life can be understood will little doubt
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thinking
Registered Senior User (1,355 posts)
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11-09-09, 04:33 PM
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“ Originally Posted by thinking
sure
what I mean is the constiuents that which gives the living body the ability to form in the first place , all minerals necessary to build a living thing , any living thing ”
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mass, energy, in time
when i hammer, i returned to atoms and energy rather than adam and eve
seems the rules must apply there before all else
then to comprehend how each work, then it seems life is just the energy upon mass that enables any to even combine to make molecule number 1
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look , simply put , life needs the Universe in order to exist
there is nothing complicated about this really
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Bishadi
just another person (2,607 posts)
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11-09-09, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by thinking look , simply put , life needs the Universe in order to exist
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i agree
Happiness is knowing once we are; we are ONE.
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there is nothing complicated about this really
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exactly
as often; the complication is getting through the education
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thinking
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11-09-09, 05:22 PM
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“ Originally Posted by thinking
look , simply put , life needs the Universe in order to exist ”
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i agree
Happiness is knowing once we are; we are ONE.
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yes
but religions , of all sorts , get in the dam way
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thinking
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11-09-09, 05:28 PM
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there is nothing complicated about this really ”
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exactly
as often; the complication is getting through the education
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and once one gets through the education , is the ability to apply this education practicably
so that we understand the implications and then truely understand " what is existence "
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Bishadi
just another person (2,607 posts)
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11-09-09, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by thinking and once gets through the education , is the ability to apply this education practicably
so that we understand the implications and then truely understand " what is existence "
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mass, energy, time; the total as 'existence' (some call it "the trinity" of one)
the transistion to me is like the ankh, transcribed into a mathematical script
mass: energy affixed in time (the loop)
ie.... all this stuff i talk about is grounded, not just, philosophically observed
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thinking
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11-09-09, 06:48 PM
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“ Originally Posted by thinking
and once gets through the education , is the ability to apply this education practicably
so that we understand the implications and then truly understand " what is existence "
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Originally Posted by Bishadi mass, energy, time; the total as 'existence' (some call it "the trinity" of one)
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or energy , mass , movement ( hence time )
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the transition to me is like the ankh, transcribed into a mathematical script
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so ?
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mass: energy affixed in time (the loop)
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affixed in time ?
explain further
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ie.... all this stuff i talk about is grounded, not just, philosophically observed
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so mathematics then defines existence , to you
which is superior , simply the ability to Reason without mathematics or just mathematics
what came first the physical Universe or mathematics ?
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Bishadi
just another person (2,607 posts)
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11-09-09, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by thinking or energy , mass , movement ( hence time )
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no need to move to take time
to measure alone, takes time
there is no mass or energy without time
not sure what you asking
don't ask for the name
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affixed in time ?
explain further
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what did E=mc2 share when describing the fission of mass? that when mass, is separated, that after the parts are added, the difference is light (energy)
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so mathematics then defines existence , to you
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can define? ....absolutely!
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which is superior , simply the ability to Reason without mathematics or just mathematics
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reason supported by math
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what came first the physical Universe or mathematics ?
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that's a tough one
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glaucon
tending tangentially (3,762 posts)
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11-09-09, 10:50 PM
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Mod Hat:
Sorry guys, the duet you're running is going nowhere tediously.
Try formulating your comments in a clear fashion instead of disjointed single sentence suppositions.
Thread Closed.
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