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Michael
kabuki theater (10,245 posts)
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11-04-09, 12:15 AM
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Epic Muhammad movie in pipeline
From the producers of LOTR and Matrix comes this summer's smashing hit: Mohammad.
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An epic movie about Islam's Prophet Muhammad is in the pipeline, backed by a producer of the Lord of the Rings. American Barrie Osborne, who also produced The Matrix, told Reuters the film would be an "international epic" aimed at "bridging cultures". In accordance with Islamic rules, the Prophet cannot be depicted on screen. Images of the Prophet are considered blasphemous by Muslims. The $150m (£91m) English language film should go into production in 2011. 2010 talks Qatari media company Alnoor Holdings, which is behind the plans, said it wanted to attract the "best international talent" for the film.
"The film will educate people about the true meaning of Islam," Osborne said. Raja Sharif, vice president of international projects at Alnoor, told Reuters he expected to conclude deals next year.
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This is great, although if they don't show a person playing the part of Mohammad (and let's face it, unless you want your head chopped off by some nut, they probably won't) I can't see it being as good as it could be. Nevertheless, this will open up more of a discussion on Mohammad. Hopefully what's known, what's legend, the good and the warts.
Movies can be a great way to open up dialogue.
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Michael
kabuki theater (10,245 posts)
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11-04-09, 12:44 AM
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The Message is a 1976 film about Mohammad
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On March 9, 1977, a group led by Hamaas Abdul Khaalis, seized several buildings and took 134 hostages in Washington, D.C.[2] The takeover led to the fatal shootings of a journalist and a police officer, and the non-fatal shooting of Marion Barry, who would become mayor of Washington, D.C. two years later. One of their demands was to prevent the release of the film. One of the hostage-takers specifically said, according to an on-site reporter, that "he wanted a guarantee from the whole world it will never be shown or they would execute some of the hostages"
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Seems those cartoons weren't really the first time this sort of thing has happened. That is interesting.
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11-04-09, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Michael
Seems those cartoons weren't really the first time this sort of thing has happened. That is interesting.
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Don't you remember Solomon Rushdie?
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11-04-09, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BenTheMan
Don't you remember Solomon Rushdie?
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His name is Salman Rushdie. He's Indian, like Sam. The fatwa against him was initiated by Ayatollah Khomeini in 1989, twelve years later than the incident in Washington.
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baftan
Registered Senior User (461 posts)
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11-04-09, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael
this will open up more of a discussion on Mohammad. Hopefully what's known, what's legend, the good and the warts.
Movies can be a great way to open up dialogue.
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No it will not. Non-believers will not start to believe in Mohammad. Believers will react according to whether or not they find any insult to their understanding of Mohammad. Nobody will re-think about their belief.
And at the end of the day, the movie will come out of Hollywood and Muslims will watch it as outsiders views about their prophet/religion. They simply do not care what outsiders (infidels, christians, or anybody who hasn't "muslim" title) think about their situation among humanity. They will not examine themselves through any external point of view. I find it hopeless.
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11-04-09, 10:30 PM
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It would be better I think, if the Japanese made an anime on him.
At least, the Japanese are less likely to have nefarious underlying motivations.
And Arabs do respect the Japanese more.
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Originally Posted by baftan
No it will not. Non-believers will not start to believe in Mohammad. Believers will react according to whether or not they find any insult to their understanding of Mohammad. Nobody will re-think about their belief.
And at the end of the day, the movie will come out of Hollywood and Muslims will watch it as outsiders views about their prophet/religion. They simply do not care what outsiders (infidels, christians, or anybody who hasn't "muslim" title) think about their situation among humanity. They will not examine themselves through any external point of view. I find it hopeless.
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How do you think a movie on the Muslim version of Christs life would be seen in the west? Where he prays to Allah and doesn't get crucified, but dies happily of old age?
Last edited by S.A.M.; 11-04-09 at 10:38 PM..
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11-04-09, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by baftan
Non-believers will not start to believe in Mohammad.
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I think you mean "believe in Islam"? Of all the prophets in the Abrahamic religions, Muhammad's existence as a real historical figure is the least controversial. Not to say that it has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt, but I think it's fair to say that scholars of the history of religion place a higher probability--certainly much higher than 50%--on the veracity of Muhammad's existence than that of Jesus, Moses, or Abraham himself.
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Carcano
Registered Senior User (5,101 posts)
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11-07-09, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael
This is great, although if they don't show a person playing the part of Mohammad I can't see it being as good as it could be.
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Actually the most powerful scene in the old movie Ben-Hur depicted Jesus without showing his face.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6LHW...eature=related
Lends an air of profound mystery which can be very effective!
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baftan
Registered Senior User (461 posts)
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11-07-09, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Fraggle Rocker
I think you mean "believe in Islam"?
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Islam requires to believe in Allah and Mohammed as his prophet. Believing in Islam, believing in Allah, believing in Mohammed are all same thing: You can not ignore one of these concepts (alongside some others) and believing the rest; they coexist in theory.
And in every point of view, Mohammed stands in the middle of what you call Islam. He brought the subject religion, he brought the verses, he is the "ubermensch", it's his doctrine. There is no Islam without Mohammed; whether you are an unbeliever or a believer this is the fact for Islam, this is the core understanding and expectation of this religion.
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