08-09-11, 05:33 AM #261
Nandi Bear. Ahh, of course, it's not the lions that are attacking people, it's the Nandi bears! a.k.a giant hyrax
This link is very good Nandi Bear Encounters
"It was almost on the line when I first saw it and at that time it had already seen me and was making off at a right angle to the line ... As I got closer to the animal I saw it was not a hyena. At first I saw it nearly broadside on: it then looked about as high as a lion. In color it was tawny--about like a black-maned lion--with very shaggy long hair. It was short and thickset in the body, with high withers, and had a short neck and stumpy nose. It did not turn to look at me, but loped off--running with its forelegs and with both hind legs rising at the same time. As I got alongside it, it was about forty or fifty yards away and I noticed it was very broad across the rump, had very short ears, and had no tail that I could see. As its hind legs came out of the grass I noticed the legs were very shaggy right down to the feet, and that the feet seemed large...""I was travelling with a cousin on the Uasingishu just after the Nandi expedition, and, of course, long before there was any settlement up there. We had been camped ... near the Mataye and were marching towards the Sirgoit Rock when we saw the beast ... I saw a large animal sitting up on its haunches no more than 30 yards away. Its attitude was just that of a bear at the 'Zoo' asking for buns, and I should say it must have been nearly 5 feet high ... it dropped forward and shambled away towards the Sirgoit with what my cousin always describes as a sort of sideways canter… I snatched my rifle and took a snapshot at it as it was disappearing among the rocks, and, though I missed it, it stopped and turned its head round to look at us ... In size it was, I should say, larger than the bear that lives in the pit at the 'Zoo' and it was quite as heavily built. The fore quarters were very thickly furred, as were all four legs, but the hind quarters were comparatively speaking smooth or bare ... the head was long and pointed and exactly like that of a bear ... I have not a very clear recollection of the ears beyond the fact that they were small, and the tail, if any, was very small and practically unnoticeable. The color was dark ..."
Here's another interesting link Frontiers of Zoology
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08-09-11, 08:28 AM #262
08-09-11, 08:32 AM #263
08-09-11, 08:34 AM #264
The Simba notice below is about real lions.
The article I quoted was about were-lions from the 1940's.
Watu Simba means man-lion, just as were-wolf means man-wolf.
It has nothing much to do with the notice except it shares a couple of words.
Modern Africans would not have an official notice about were lions.
Though I can envisage some of their Christian churches producing them, given their treatment of so-called witches.
Perhaps not. There are no were-lions in the Bible, fortunately.
Yes it is interesting, because it shows how religious leaders actively make events fit in with their religious beliefs, and will construct events if they do not spontaneously occur.
08-09-11, 08:38 AM #265
They would say it's real lions though wouldn't they. Everyone knows of the ferocious nandi bear in Africa at a guess..The people will know the difference, the ones that want to know anyway..
08-09-11, 08:40 AM #266
Could you read what I posted.
All you are doing is reiterating.
Would you be satisfied if they did a DNA test of the saliva from the animal bite?
08-09-11, 08:52 AM #267
Re the DNA tests
Take your time.............................
08-10-11, 04:24 AM #268
What's your reason for more lions attacking people on a waning moon then?
08-10-11, 04:51 PM #269
Lions hunt mostly at night, because they can see in the dark and their prey can't.
As it gets closer to a full moon, the prey can see the lion coming, so they run away.
By the time it gets to a waning moon, the lion is so hungry that it will attack people instead of its normal prey.
08-10-11, 05:05 PM #270
There was an episode on 'fact or faked' about the beast of dartmore (Series 1, episode 3 or 4, cant remember).. very interesting it was too.
A Lady by the name of Lucinda Reid came forward to say it was her Newfoundland dog Troy and i do have to admit it looks a lot like it, Can not post a link to the article yet i do believe as this is only my second post, but if you google 'Beast of Dartmoor 'is my pet dog' on BBC news site it will come up.
08-11-11, 06:49 AM #271
08-11-11, 06:51 AM #272
08-11-11, 07:32 AM #273
Why do I have to spell things out so much?
I explained all that.
When it's at the full moon the Lion isn't hungry enough yet to attack a human.
They will only attack a human when they are desperately hungry.
The moons phases cover 28 days.
Lets say the full moon is at day 14.
Up to day 10, and after day 18 the moon is not full enough for the prey to see the lion attacking. It can't see where it is, so the lion can easily catch and eat its normal prey.
After day 10, the lion starts to get hungry.
Why? Because now, once the lioness has broken cover, the prey can see where it is.
It is OK for a few days, because she ate on day 10.
But on day 16-18, she is getting really ravenous.
At this point, the moon is waning , but the night is not yet dark enough to render blind its natural prey.
The desperate lion takes the risk of attacking a human, which, being a smart lion, she knows is fraught with danger.
08-11-11, 07:39 AM #274
Sounds like poppycock to me. Do you have a shred of scientific data to support your claims?
I have a better Idea. Why not put your money where your mouth is? I'll email the police station of the nearest major town and ask for a good saliva sample taken from the victim of the next lion attack for DNA analysis. I'll offer the equivalent of £220 for their time and cooperation if the sample comes with a veterinary certificate of authenticity. Are you willing to take a bet on the outcome?
08-11-11, 08:03 AM #275
They won't do it.
They'll think you are some kind of loony.
Why £220 anyway?
08-11-11, 08:06 AM #276
Also, lions have probably been talking to Hyraxes to get tips from them.
Their DNA may be contaminated.
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08-11-11, 08:47 AM #277
P.S £220 just hapens to be all I can afford right at this minute
08-11-11, 09:27 AM #278
08-11-11, 09:38 AM #279
Karl Shuker, the mad cryptologist.
That sounds fair.
Unfortunately I have only got £2.24 on me.
Plus a couple of Euros.
Will that do?
If so, you're on.
I would prefer you to get the naturalist David Bellamy to do the DNA tests,
but he is probably busy disproving Global warming.
Contact the Shuker immediately.
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