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    God is not inside the box.. NMSquirrel's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by PsychoticEpisode View Post
    You definitely are what you write. You don't like one man's attempt to control others yet you go to a priest so he can set you straight then have him convince you that no one can convince anyone else. TIME OUT!!!!
    you assume i went to him so he can set me straight...i communicated with him about how i was argueing about god..and he shared with me a story involving another person just to communicate the personal aspect of god..the set me straight is my words not meant to be taken so literally..
    Last edited by NMSquirrel; 10-14-09 at 10:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by (Q) View Post
    Religion is the belief in god, also.
    there are many who would argue your point..thats why i think god has been getting a bad rap,so to speak, cause religion has screwed it up..

    actually according to websters dictionary;
    religion, a system of faith and worship.
    it does not mention god, which reminds me that there are religions in the world that do not have god in them..some consider football to be their religion

    Too bad, your pastor is dead wrong. Clearly, he has no idea what he's talking about and is obviously lying to you.
    where is your point to counter this claim?
    so many assumptions in that one line...
    not one of which has any validity..

    besides..i am not trying to convert any of you or try to convince you that there is a god..i am only trying to share what i know to be true..if you dont want to believe me..thats your perogitive..i can respect that...i just ask that you respect me beliefs..you dont have to agree with them..im not asking you to..

    speaking of which..what is the title of this thread??
    why is it when someone mentions god the athiest gets their guns out and start blazing..
    Last edited by NMSquirrel; 10-14-09 at 10:26 PM.

  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Bizza View Post
    What a hypocrite you are!
    Then why post threads that try to preach your subjective views all over this forum? The above example was a testimony to that.
    Look Bizza, it's called a religious forum. People posit positions that differ greatly with your life-long belief. Get over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NMSquirrel View Post
    and i dont appreciate the 'your pastor is wrong'
    He's wrong about god, why not this?

    Why do you even have a pastor if you don't believe in religion. Isn't that hypocritical?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NMSquirrel View Post
    i am only trying to share what i know to be true..
    Gotta correct you there bub. It's what you feel is true. You don't know.

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    Valued Senior Member Jan Ardena's Avatar
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    Orleander,

    For some reason most believers think atheism = satan worshiper.
    "Worshiper" may be debatable, but certainly atheism to some degree or other
    is a form of satanism, at least symbolically, if nothing else.

    jan.

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by S.A.M. View Post
    Is this present in all atheists to some extent? Do all atheists wish people believed like them?
    I cant speak for all atheists but personally yes. However I wouldn't force them into it, but allow them to come to thier own conclusions. And I guess it should work the other way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.A.M. View Post
    Not the usual atheist bashing thread. But I am curious. It would seem that most ardent and "militant" atheists have a God complex and want control over what other people should believe.

    Is this present in all atheists to some extent? Do all atheists wish people believed like them?
    It seems like this to me, I often feel like they are trying to cram their ideas down my throat. They often get very insulting at times when you disagree with them, as if they re frustrated at their lack of ability to manipulate other people into thinking like they do.

    More and more I pity the atheists, atheism seems almost like some sort of epidemic of the mind that has spread about, a sickness so to say. If there weren't so many that repeatedly kept trying to use the word religion as if it were a bad one, calling anyone who believes in god a crackpot, and pretending like they are in the majority (yes, I have encountered this bolony many times now), then my thoughts would differ. The biggest problem with the hardcore atheist is their lack of respect for the believers, the faith given, and so in retaliation to their offensive behavior those with faith give them slack.

    Also, these things become their greatest weakness when pointed out with care, as long as one remembers that most people favor freedom of thought, and not the atheistic "think like me or you are stupid" ideas many of them parade. Why am I so harsh...well if someone offends me I will reflect their behavior back at them, just because I have faith does not mean I will endure their insults!

    I'm not Gandhi, I hit back!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinwheel View Post
    I cant speak for all atheists but personally yes. However I wouldn't force them into it, but allow them to come to thier own conclusions. And I guess it should work the other way.
    Is your belief correct, why you would want all to believe like you?
    Has it occured to you that theists do come to their own conclusions?

    jan.

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    Faith in religion is not the same as faith in God - it is faith in man. Specifically the person who created and the people who interpreted and manipulated the religion.

    While God may or may not be man-made, religion certainly is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan Ardena View Post
    Is your belief correct, why you would want all to believe like you?
    If my belief was correct then I certainly would want others to belive the same. Unless I had an advantage to others believing a lie, which is possible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jan Ardena View Post
    Has it occured to you that theists do come to their own conclusions?
    jan.
    Yes I implied they might have done. But the question (for me anyway) will never go away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jozen-Bo View Post
    It seems like this to me, I often feel like they are trying to cram their ideas down my throat. They often get very insulting at times when you disagree with them, as if they re frustrated at their lack of ability to manipulate other people into thinking like they do.
    This has been my experience as well.
    I'm not Gandhi, I hit back!
    Me too!!!

  13. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by S.A.M. View Post
    It would seem that most ardent and "militant" atheists have a God complex and want control over what other people should believe.
    not this atheist,
    the theists on the other hand...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jozen-Bo View Post
    The biggest problem with the hardcore atheist is their lack of respect for the believers
    Why should a belief held in the absense of evidence or in light of contrary evidence be considered worthy of respect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.A.M. View Post
    ... But I am curious. It would seem that most ardent and "militant" atheists have a God complex and want control over what other people should believe.
    Typical blind supposition.
    I have never encountered any atheist who expressed any desire whatsoever to 'convert' theists. There is a distinct difference between wishing that a person would think as they themself do, and thinking that a person is deluded....

    Just because a theist may think it their duty to proselytize, this doesn't mean that those of an (apparent) opposite 'belief' must do so.

  16. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Orleander View Post
    I'm an atheist and my kids go to church. Well, my son no longer does, but my daughter is even in the church choir.

    I think its important for people to find their own way. I don't wish others followed my belief, I just wish believers were more tolerant of mine. For some reason most believers think atheism = satan worshiper.
    Do you not think it is your duty as a mom to teach your kids what you believe in ?. After all you are an Atheist because you do not believe in religions and in God as seen by religions . Is it ethical and moral to let our children take the wrong way when we turn our backs on the same route ?.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swarm View Post
    He's wrong about god, why not this?

    Why do you even have a pastor if you don't believe in religion. Isn't that hypocritical?
    are you seriously asking or are you just trying to stir some sh*t

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    Quote Originally Posted by phlogistician View Post
    Gotta correct you there bub. It's what you feel is true. You don't know.
    see..i would argue with you about that...but that would require a different thread....so the only thing i will say is you MIGHT be right....

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    Quote Originally Posted by one_raven View Post
    Faith in religion is not the same as faith in God - it is faith in man. Specifically the person who created and the people who interpreted and manipulated the religion.

    While God may or may not be man-made, religion certainly is.


    then the question becomes not how screwed up is religion..but what was god supposed to be about?..



    Spidergoat;
    Why should a belief held in the absense of evidence or in light of contrary evidence be considered worthy of respect?
    that would require definition of the word respect..is one required to be worthy to get respect?..

    do you only believe in that which you can prove?(prove to me politicians don't lie, aren't corrupt, or actually care about me and my own....)

    and the debate about absent evidence or contrary evidence still rages...
    Last edited by NMSquirrel; 10-15-09 at 08:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NMSquirrel View Post
    see..i would argue with you about that...but that would require a different thread....so the only thing i will say is you MIGHT be right....
    No, I know I'm right, because to 'know' would require some testable aspect of what it is you know, and there is none.

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