Sexual enhancement drugs etc

**jpappl** · 08-31-09, 06:15 PM

Mostly for women but men please chime in if you have had experience with this.

I don't want to create a poll, to restrictive, just asking questions. More about the psychology of how people view this topic.

How do you view a man who uses viagra and the like to improve his sexual function or to solve the occasional impotence symptom ?

IOW, does your opinion change for the better, ie that he is trying to make things better for you as well. Change for the worse, less of a man because he has to take the drug or not change at all ? and why ?

What about future changes in medicine that could occur. Let's say he is too thin in that area or too short and could have a very safe proven surgery or take a drug to enhance that aspect ?

What if he could take a pill that would increase his ability to connect with you emotionally and therefore increase your libido in the process ?

If you have low libido, would you take a pill to increase it ? for him or for you ?

Would you take a pill that could allow you to have multiple and/or stronger orgasms ?

**~~John99~~** · 08-31-09, 06:26 PM

I cant see why it would matter.

**~~mike47~~** · 08-31-09, 06:38 PM

I want a hot, horny woman and I do not care what kind of medications she takes as long as she satisfies me . As for men who cares I do not go with men....hahaha...

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**jpappl** · 08-31-09, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by John99

I cant see why it would matter.

So this is the second thread of mine that you have wasted a post on.

If you don't have something to add, don't post.

If your question is geniune, I answered it below.

I can imagine these things having an psychological effect on relationships, especially as medical science delves farther into this arena and allows for more correction to what society deems as ideal or desired.

**jpappl** · 08-31-09, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by mike47

I want a hot, horny woman and I do not care what kind of medications she takes as long as she satisfies me . As for men who cares I do not go with men....hahaha...

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I know this may be obvious, since your name is Mike47, but are you a man or a woman.

**Asguard** · 08-31-09, 06:45 PM

i can see your point on the medicalisation of sex. that being said if its causing YOU distress then sure get help and your partner should surport that

**~~John99~~** · 08-31-09, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by jpappl

So this is the second thread of mine that you have wasted a post on.

If you don't have something to add, don't post.

If your question is geniune, I answered it below.

I can imagine these things having an psychological effect on relationships, especially as medical science delves farther into this arena and allows for more correction to what society deems as ideal or desired.

i did ADD something.

i cant see it having any psychologogical effect afa the woman is concerned because this is normal part of life and these drugs are directed at older men.

**jpappl** · 08-31-09, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by Asguard

i can see your point on the medicalisation of sex. that being said if its causing YOU distress then sure get help and your partner should surport that

It's not about me or anyone else personally, I am more curious about the effect it has on the relationship outside of the bedroom.

We know that impotence and lack of desire has an effect, a strain, but what effect does medically resolving that which the effects of growing older have created.

It's no longer natural, ultimately do we view artificial stimulation as the same.

For example, if a woman can take a pill to have orgasms easier, is it the same for her compared to having one without it. Lets say she has 1 every 5 times she has sex, does this pill change things pyschologically about how she feels about herself. Does it cheapen it for her or for the guy knowing that it is more the pill than him.

I am not asking so much about the medical side as the pyschological effects.

**jpappl** · 08-31-09, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by John99

i did ADD something.

i cant see it having any psychologogical effect afa the woman is concerned because this is normal part of life and these drugs are directed at older men.

Ok, I misunderstood.

Thanks for the clarification.

**Asguard** · 08-31-09, 07:02 PM

heres a questiob for you, i suffer depression (and anxiaty but the depression is more relivent) which means i end up with almost no labido. this causes distress for my partner as well because she cant help but think its her (when its not) AND she is sexually frustrated.

now treating the depression helps, do you think she is unhappy when the depression is under control?

**~~John99~~** · 08-31-09, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by jpappl

Ok, I misunderstood.

Thanks for the clarification.

no problem.

Originally Posted by Asguard

heres a questiob for you, i suffer depression (and anxiaty but the depression is more relivent) which means i end up with almost no labido. this causes distress for my partner as well because she cant help but think its her (when its not) AND she is sexually frustrated.

now treating the depression helps, do you think she is unhappy when the depression is under control?

Asguard, these drugs are focused more towards a straight on medical condition and most of these medical problems are non reversable.

What you mentioned has many other variable and the depression part supercedes the need for an erection. i think.

inablity to perform is at times a common occurance and every man experiences this. there can also be many reasons when they are psychologically driven. it could be simple anxiety over a job or an event. it is best to openly communicate this. personally i dont see any difference between it and when a woman just 'doesnt feel like it'.

**jpappl** · 08-31-09, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by Asguard

heres a questiob for you, i suffer depression (and anxiaty but the depression is more relivent) which means i end up with almost no labido. this causes distress for my partner as well because she cant help but think its her (when its not) AND she is sexually frustrated.

now treating the depression helps, do you think she is unhappy when the depression is under control?

No.

In this case, the treatment is cherished because it not only treats your symptoms but helps the relationship that can be affected by it.

Relating to your example above, would you take a pill that goes beyond the treatment of depression and basically make you happy all the time, if that improves your relationship ?

IOW, are we going to get to a point where we treat all relationship issues with meds, like some attempt to do with kids that are perfect good little boys and girls.

**Asguard** · 08-31-09, 07:28 PM

as far as erectile dysfuntion goes. there is eveidence that it goes hand in hand with heart disease and there is evidence to surport treating the sexual problems help the heart.

but as i said i do agree with you about medicalisation

**~~John99~~** · 08-31-09, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by jpappl

No.

In this case, the treatment is cherished because it not only treats your symptoms but helps the relationship that can be affected by it.

Relating to your example above, would you take a pill that goes beyond the treatment of depression and basically make you happy all the time, if that improves your relationship ?

IOW, are we going to get to a point where we treat all relationship issues with meds, like some attempt to do with kids that are perfect good little boys and girls.

i have no personal experience with this but i am assuming desire is there but the mechanism is not working. hence the desire for rectification.

**~~John99~~** · 08-31-09, 07:39 PM

another thing i would add, and in realtion to post 14, is that i dont believe (fairly certain) these drug are or claim to be mood enhancing. there is a major distinction. like treating diabetes and its medications that do not alter the person psychologically. jpappl, now you are confusing types of drugs whereas one is clearly psychotropic in nature.

**~~John99~~** · 08-31-09, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by Asguard

as far as erectile dysfuntion goes. there is eveidence that it goes hand in hand with heart disease and there is evidence to surport treating the sexual problems help the heart.

but as i said i do agree with you about medicalisation

could very well be. or it can coincide with that period of life where the person is getting older. then again it could be related due to the hearts inability to pump blood.

note: i am neither a doctor nor a pharmacist.

**jpappl** · 08-31-09, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by John99

i have no personal experience with this but i am assuming desire is there but the mechanism is not working. hence the desire for rectification.

Yes, so in relationships. Depending on the problem that is present. Do we just start to modify who we are with meds, to take full advantage of ALL of our desires. Be they more orgasms, better erections, more libido etc etc.

We have seen that surgery like face lifts etc have been very popular and more accepted. What about surgeries that will cure other elective needs or desires.

Have you ever seen the twilight zone episode where the older couple trade in their bodies for new more attractive ones.

**jpappl** · 08-31-09, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by John99

another thing i would add, and in realtion to post 14, is that i dont believe (fairly certain) these drug are or claim to be mood enhancing. there is a major distinction. like treating diabetes and its medications that do not alter the person psychologically. jpappl, now you are confusing types of drugs whereas one is clearly psychotropic in nature.

What I am suggesting or asking opinions of is do these drugs or surgeries that we have available now or may have in the future that affect the physical only, have a pyschological effect on the relationship.

Example given earlier, a woman takes a pill for easier orgasms. What does that say about the man, does it affect him.

Does a woman feel inadequate when a man takes something for his erection issues. Ie that she is no attractive enough for him to desire her.

What at first may seem great, ends up being viewed as competition in a sense.

**~~John99~~** · 08-31-09, 07:59 PM

yes, i have seen that episode.

the thing is that we dont identify with these things until they hit home. luckily i dont need any meds but i can see why some would at least consider this type of drug....barring any substantial side effects.

**Asguard** · 08-31-09, 08:03 PM

err aparently i have confused everyone. the meds i was talking about were antidepressantx which have the nice side effect of increasing my labido. its not only women who can have low labido problems.

as far as heart attacks occuring at the same time, thats true but the studies were on meds not age and they found those who had treated sexual dysfuntion had lower rates of heart attacks. this is belived to be because both problems are actually vascular problems