A question for doctors (tubal ligation)

[draqon]

Absolutely correct. Being a mom isn't for everyone, and it's not as though you can't change your mind and adopt later.

As well as in to addition...that not being a mom isn't for everyone either. And that you and I and everyone else exists from the people who choose the path of procreation. Honor their choices, act in their wishes.

[draqon]

And if my mom didn't feel like having me, then so what? Mrs. X right now doesn't feel like having children, and as a consequence will never give birth to person Y. Not having existed, no one will miss person Y.

But she did feel like having you, she was not a femi-Nazi, she was a normal good woman with qualities bestowed upon her by life. And I honor such women. I bow before them.

What has been done, been done, all on purpose and with a cause.

[OverTheStars]

Draqon, what about mothers wishing to get tubal ligations?

[draqon]

Draqon, what about mothers wishing to get tubal ligations?

They have my full 100% support, for they have done their duty of life.

[OverTheStars]

Alright, and what about young mothers with children, wanting more children? Where taxpayers would be paying for the upbringing of the child? Would you feel that it is in everyone's best interest for the young mother to proceed with getting a tubal ligation? Should she be refused the procedure?

[draqon]

Alright, and what about young mothers with children, wanting more children? Where taxpayers would be paying for the upbringing of the child? Would you feel that it is in everyone's best interest for the young mother to proceed with getting a tubal ligation? Should she be refused the procedure?

That is up to the taxpayers or the government to decide.

My task is to make sure babies are born.

No babies are born? bad.
One baby is born? Good.
More than one baby is born? Better.
Too many babies are born? No such thing.

Unhealthy babies are born? BAD! So as long as those young mothers give birth to healthy children, let them use the tax money, I support the cause!

[spidergoat]

But she did feel like having you, she was not a femi-Nazi, she was a normal good woman with qualities bestowed upon her by life. And I honor such women. I bow before them.

What has been done, been done, all on purpose and with a cause.

Woman that don't want any more children are not "femi-nazis". The fewer children women have, the more resources there are for those that are born.

[draqon]

Woman that don't want any more children are not "femi-nazis". The fewer children women have, the more resources there are for those that are born.

Yeah ok, they are not femi-nazis...but they are not doing the task given to them by life either.

We have space to explore, it is limitless! We need every chance we have to maximize our civilization in numbers and strength. We need to explore space for resources and allow the future generations to be driven by the need of resources and thus evolve as a civilization in a whole.

[spidergoat]

It's quality, not quantity. A woman is not just a baby-making machine. What about female astronauts?

[draqon]

What about female astronauts?

...what about them?

[spidergoat]

Well, not having a child could be their choice in order to pursue a career in space travel.

[draqon]

Well, not having a child could be their choice in order to pursue a career in space travel.

well...there are always exceptions...space is one of them.

[OverTheStars]

What do you think of barren women?

[draqon]

What do you think of barren women?

barren? what are those?

[draqon]

oh childless by nature...well I think that they are not performing their task because life did not give them the task, thus they are not obliged to perform a task.

[Liebling]

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/PRESSROOM/98facts/sterile.htm

That's your stats... only 25% who've had it done would consider having it reversed. That's not most, that's 1 in 4... 75% wouldn't get it reversed at all. That's not many... that's even slightly more than a few.

Therefore, your statement is false.

[takandjive]

As well as in to addition...that not being a mom isn't for everyone either. And that you and I and everyone else exists from the people who choose the path of procreation. Honor their choices, act in their wishes.

You're right. I want to have a child. However, not all women do. People who want a child should have one. People that don't shouldn't.

[draqon]

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/PRESSROOM/98facts/sterile.htm

That's your stats... only 25% who've had it done would consider having it reversed. That's not most, that's 1 in 4... 75% wouldn't get it reversed at all. That's not many... that's even slightly more than a few.

Therefore, your statement is false.

fine I hang tied down waterboarded and defeated.



Those women who do undergo this procedure why do they do it? Just because? I am sure the 1/4 that chose to reverse it are the women who were healthy to begin with. And the rest 3/4 were unhealthy and had health issues.

[draqon]

You're right. I want to have a child. However, not all women do. People who want a child should have one. People that don't shouldn't.

Well than we agree.

I am striking for balance here, woman.

[spidergoat]

Same reason you would (theoretically) wear a condom.