Teens and Marijuana

**takandjive** · 05-31-09, 12:44 PM

John, when it comes to advising people about drug use, you should leave it to the people who know something about it. Otherwise you're going to kill someone.

THC metabolism is affected by various factors, but we're not discussing that. How you actually get high is a fact. It's not my opinion. It's medical fact. This is not a matter of disagreement. Don't insult the entire medical community by insisting it is.

**~~John99~~** · 05-31-09, 01:03 PM

how is what i said going to kill someone? you are misconstruing what i said.

How you actually get high is a fact

yes, it is a medical fact and one i agree with.

**takandjive** · 05-31-09, 01:07 PM

You were the one claiming pot and heroin affected the exact same area of the nervous system in the same way, and that it would affect you to smoke a bomber joint just as much as a small line of heroin. That's deadly (not to mention WRONG) information.

**~~John99~~** · 05-31-09, 01:11 PM

but i didnt mean physically in terms of medical danger. do you think i am stupid? plus i already made that pretty clear.

**~~John99~~** · 05-31-09, 01:12 PM

Look at what i said previously:

afa grading intoxicants and which substances are more dangerous, my views fall in line with the norm and what can be termed factual information. so really it is just a misunderstanding. i think that the physical danger part of this is what you are missing too or is just a misunderstanding. first time heroin users can be in for a bad surprise...iotw's kicking the bucket.

**takandjive** · 05-31-09, 01:15 PM

Are you writing in disjointed sentence fragments that make it hard to follow what you're saying on purpose?

It physically does not affect you the same way, in terms of danger, in terms of nervous system function, in terms of anything EVER.

Clean cut smack is not that hard on you. It's just highly addictive.

**~~John99~~** · 05-31-09, 01:42 PM

Are you writing in disjointed sentence fragments that make it hard to follow what you're saying on purpose?

no.

it isnt intentional but i get skip words sometimes and get them mixed up or put them in the wrong place. like i did in that last sentence so i have to go back and reread everything but sometime i am lazy about that. i can proofread everything.

OT: slightly two different trains of though here. but even scientists and doctors disagree on the particulars of addiction and various substances.

**takandjive** · 05-31-09, 02:00 PM

On addiction. Not on how you actually get high. Although most agree: Smack's addictive. I'm not nagging on the sentences; I just genuinely get confused.

**PieAreSquared** · 05-31-09, 02:21 PM

CatherineW.. your welcome in New Mexico too.

John99... you have no clue what you're talking about with

weed and heroin..

have another drink of what ever you've been drinking

**takandjive** · 05-31-09, 02:28 PM

I just had two beers, and this thread's WAAAAY more palatable.

**CatherineW** · 05-31-09, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by PieAreSquared

CatherineW.. your welcome in New Mexico too.

I wonder if I can get contacts in all the states

**~~John99~~** · 05-31-09, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by PieAreSquared

CatherineW.. your welcome in New Mexico too.

John99... you have no clue what you're talking about with

weed and heroin..

have another drink of what ever you've been drinking

oh please. weve been through this before.

you have no clue what you're talking about with

weed and heroin

what are you referring to?

i dont drink either.

**PieAreSquared** · 05-31-09, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by CatherineW

I wonder if I can get contacts in all the states

But New Mexico is the best state

**PieAreSquared** · 05-31-09, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by James R

Marijuana has similar effects to alcohol in terms of impairment of functioning. So, if you smoke and drive, it's pretty much indistinguishable from drinking and driving.

But I'd say the biggest worries with marijuana are the health effects. For example, there is some evidence to show that smoking a joint does about 4 times the damage that smoking a tobacco cigarette does to your body. If you want lung cancer, throat cancer, a reduced lifespan and so on, then smoke cigarettes or dope and you'll radically multiply your risk - regular marijuana use will multiple your risk of many cancers by at least 10 times the rate for non-users.

If the effects on your physical health are not sufficient, then consider the evidence on mental health effects of regular marijuana use. You'll lose interest in just about everything after a while - you'll just want to "chill out" with a bong or a joint. Your ability to concentrate on anything like a normal person will gradually wane away. Your ability to really feel emotions will dull - you might not get depressed, but you won't be able to really feel properly happy any more either. Then there are the bonus hallucinations, the paranoia, the schizophrenia risks.

If none of this concerns you, then no worries. It's your body. It's your mind. If you don't value it, don't expect other people to.

what am I referring to?

how about here

**~~John99~~** · 05-31-09, 03:29 PM

i didnt say that.

**~~John99~~** · 05-31-09, 03:30 PM

was there something wrong with that stement?

edit: statement

**PieAreSquared** · 05-31-09, 03:33 PM

a few good hits of very high thc weed (one or two) and that will send a new smoker for a loop that is not really much different from doing a small line of heroin.

guess this is what got me thinking they were both from you

my apologizes for mis-quoting you

**~~John99~~** · 05-31-09, 03:38 PM

so what is wrong with that statement?

just because that is not one persons experience does not mean that is true for everyone. key differences are that with heroin you most likely puke and it really can kill you.

**PieAreSquared** · 05-31-09, 03:43 PM

most heroin ODs can be prevented..problem is most people don't know what to do or the junkies alone and drowns on their puke... they die from drowning

To die from a heroin overdose takes quite awhile... and like any opiate it's from respiratory failure

to equate heroin and marijuana even close to the same is "reefer madness" dogma