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04-23-09, 09:27 PM #43Banned
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you are a troll
and glaucon has nothing to add to the thread
perhaps he did not read that other folks can comprehend
AND we are aware of said deity's existence
AND we have no language
THEN our duty would be to exist, live, and reproduce.
seems like it was pretty simple to some folks.
i gess mi ingish is 2 depe recwirng an edumacashun
or basic common sense to most children
hey kids, if there were no words for the old farts to lie to you with, what would yur duty be?
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04-23-09, 09:31 PM #44Banned
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or idiots who cannot comprehend and are so simple minded
that they need every word defined to even hold a conversation
do you remember: Is existence defining itself?
a simple question that stirred up a bunch of idiots and the arguments were all based on the words
you do realize you are feeding the trolls
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04-23-09, 10:00 PM #45SubQuantum Mechanic
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04-23-09, 10:01 PM #46
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04-23-09, 10:11 PM #47SubQuantum Mechanic
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04-23-09, 10:23 PM #48
Bishadi
Just as a technicality, you do realize that social exchanges and personal exchanges are not identical?Originally Posted by lightgigantic
Language is prerequisite for social exchange.
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When was the last time you were social with God, personally?
For instance any american who has heard a speech by Obama has participated in a "social exchange" with him (assuming that they knew he was the president, etc and that his words are framed in a certain context that is distinct from, say, their local bus driver)
sure“
If you say that there is a time where there was no language yet god and the living entity existed, you are obviously referencing something outside of complex social obligations like "duty"
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a dog, cat and lion have the same God as you do;
They are also in a neutral position on many "high end" claims of knowledge and/or ethics.but they don't make believe what a god is, because no one is lying to them about what a god is.
This is not something that I personally find enviable ..... as are most other people who participate in civilized society.
so given that this entire discourse is within the typed medium, you are certainly in the midst of a unique conundrum ....“
Does this make language impure?
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Language is not pure; people are by choice.
i made a mistake in typing and corrected it
language is NOT PURE.............. clearly put
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04-23-09, 10:31 PM #49Valued Senior Member
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Bishadi:--1) if there were no word in existence, there would be very little possibility for communication--or at best, the communication that did take place could be very easily misinterpreted, which would lead almost inevitably to total chaos rather than any form of cooperation between individuals or groups.
2) As I read it, you see A) our 'duty' to God as being in harmony with each other, and B) with Nature. A) would be impossible, given what I've said above; B) would be extremely difficult at best, because Nature, being an inanimate force, doesn't even know that we exist, and doesn't care if it kills us. Therefore B) would only be possible in the most fortunate conditions. As you may know, we've left the Garden of Eden a long way behind us, and we're not likely to re-enter the garden of paradise anytime soon.
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04-23-09, 10:48 PM #50Banned
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fair
but the idea is if there were no words, then what is your obligation to existence?
what will you be focused on?
Sounds almost like any God i ever read about.
2) As I read it, you see A) our 'duty' to God as being in harmony with each other, and B) with Nature. A) would be impossible, given what I've said above; B) would be extremely difficult at best, because Nature, being an inanimate force, doesn't even know that we exist, and doesn't care if it kills us.
But i will stop there and share, that nature is where we are still attached to like family, all cases.
i realize mankind has been led to believe they left the garden but i beg to differ as without 'the' garden, we don't eat, we don;t live and global warming shares we are responsible for our actions.Therefore B) would only be possible in the most fortunate conditions. As you may know, we've left the Garden of Eden a long way behind us, and we're not likely to re-enter the garden of paradise anytime soon.
the thread is being shared to allow each to realize these very claims being made; that we are still of the garden and words are what divided us from knowing this as a continuous fact of life.
and then as even another recognized; if we were not biased, we would all most likely be living the good life.
returning to the garden will be accomplished once life is understood as most not only believe they are separate because of what is learned by words; not reality
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04-23-09, 11:47 PM #51SubQuantum Mechanic
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There is no obligation to existence.
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04-24-09, 12:13 AM #53SubQuantum Mechanic
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More unrelated useless babbling.
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04-24-09, 11:28 PM #58SubQuantum Mechanic
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