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    The Ethical Warrior

    If it is more ethical to bomb countries with indiscriminately killing bombs rather than kill individuals with an axe or a suicide belt, why aren't all countries allowed equal access to the more ethical [and less disciminating] bombs, flechettes, cluster bomblettes and nukes?

    Isn't it better that everyone has equal opportunity to fight "ethically"?

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    What???? ...LOL! SAM, take a moment and reword your post. As it is, it's like so much garbage, and it's left up to the respondents to decide what the fuck you're trying to ask! ....LOL!

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    When was the last time anyone was incarcerated for indiscriminate bombing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.A.M. View Post
    When was the last time anyone was incarcerated for indiscriminate bombing?
    In war? Or peacetime?

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    At any time.

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    Precisely.

    which is why all this guff about "ethical warfare" is a pile of crud.

    If you want to kill someone badly enough, then do it. Don't make a half-assed effort and then look round to see who is going to applaud you for your ethical approach, tolerance and understanding afterward.

    If you do, these bloody wars are going to keep flaring up like bushfires every twenty years or so.

    Oh, wait. They already are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.A.M. View Post
    If it is more ethical to bomb countries with indiscriminately killing bombs rather than kill individuals with an axe or a suicide belt, why aren't all countries allowed equal access to the more ethical [and less disciminating] bombs, flechettes, cluster bomblettes and nukes?

    Isn't it better that everyone has equal opportunity to fight "ethically"?
    SAM, once you get to the stage where bombs are involved you're generally considerably the beyond the point where people are putting a great deal of consideration into ethical issues. At that point you are a bit preoccupied with killing the enemy before the enemy kills you.

    Also, what the hell is a bomblette?
    An explosive is still an explosive, regardless of how much of it you have.

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    What is the "stage where bombs are involved"?

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    War, obviously.

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    And if only one side is supplied with bombs and missiles, what is the "stage" for the other side?

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    SAM, you are missing the point here.
    If it gets to the point where you are dropping bombs on people, then obviously someone made the decision that it was time to stop talking and start shooting, i.e., whoever was in charge decided that the ethical considerations had now been superseded by what they decided was more important.
    Also you never answered my question.

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    I'd rather use "money" bombs! Just load them up with millions of dollars and drop them on your "enemy" then see what happens. It would cost allot less to drop millions of these "weapons" rather than keep making ones that actually explode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EntropyAlwaysWins View Post
    SAM, you are missing the point here.
    If it gets to the point where you are dropping bombs on people, then obviously someone made the decision that it was time to stop talking and start shooting, i.e., whoever was in charge decided that the ethical considerations had now been superseded by what they decided was more important.
    And what are the choices for those who do not have the bombs?

    Also you never answered my question.
    http://www.vietnamgear.com/kit.aspx?kit=511

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    Their choices are death, or surrender. Seemes like an obvious question to me.

    You dont win a war fighting fair, real battles are won through strategies and tactics, the last clean war we had was WW1 in the trenches and that got dirty with the advent of chemical weaponry.

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    Just think a "normal " bomb that is used from a plane can cost upwards to 5 million dollars! Just drop that amount on an enemy instead of actually making a exploding weapon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.A.M. View Post
    And what are the choices for those who do not have the bombs?
    run away?

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    Ah, thank you.
    Do they still use those though, looks pretty dated to me.

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    run away?
    Nope. They use their imaginations and come up with a viable alternative.
    Like flying an airliner into an building their enemy regards as being significant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EntropyAlwaysWins View Post
    run away?
    So anyone who is invaded by someone and cannot fight back, they should...run away?


    Ah, thank you.
    Do they still use those though, looks pretty dated to me.
    Unfortunately


    HILTA: From his hospital room in the Marjayoun Public Hospital, 10-year-old Mohammad Jamal Abdel- Aal says he will not forgive nor forget Israel for ripping off his limbs. Abdel-Aal's left leg and right hand got amputated on Sunday after a cluster bomb, left over from the summer 2006 war with Israel, exploded while he was playing in one of the fields near his home in the southern town of Hilta.

    "I am not able to play anymore," Abdel-Aal told The Daily Star on Sunday.

    In the last 72 hours of the 34-day July-August war, Israel dropped around four million cluster bombs all across southern Lebanon. The main concentration of unexploded ordinance is found in villages and fields north of the Littani River.

    Recalling the few minutes that preceded the explosion, Abdel-Aal said that he had gone out to a field near his house, "to take advantage of the spring time weather."

    "I was walking between the yellow daisies when I heard and explosion and felt my body was being ripped apart," he said, adding that he started feeling pain in his leg and was bleeding everywhere. "Then everything turned black."

    http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article....icle_id=100462
    He can't run away [no legs]. He has no bomb. What should he do?

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    Paraphasing Erasmus- In War, Truth is the first casualty

    What is good and evil is defined by power.

    True power comes from the barrel of a gun/willingness to sacrifice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Challenger78 View Post
    In War, Truth is the first casualty.
    I'll agree to that. Thats why I like to take things apart and see for myself.

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