What is a strong mind?

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by wynn, Apr 1, 2009.

  1. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    It has been said in another thread that the concept of God serves no purpose but to allay a weak mind's fear.

    I am assuming that there is also such a thing as a 'strong mind'.

    What is a strong mind like, a strong mind - a mind that does not need God to allay its fear?
     
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  3. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    I'd think that a "strong mind" would be one that can justify what it believes by standing firm on its convictions and will warrant much information to change its primary position on its views.
     
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  5. swarm Registered Senior Member

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    mine.
     
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  7. Cortex_Colossum Banned Banned

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    Absolutely correct.

    Not necessarily. A strong mind can merely mean most adapted mind.
     
  8. mikenostic Stop pretending you're smart! Registered Senior Member

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    By that token, then there is but a mere fine line between a strong mind, and a deluded one.
    Most devout Christians do exactly what is in the bold above.
    Most devout <insert religion here> do exactly that too.

    At least all but one of those groups are delusional. So strong mind or deluded?
     
  9. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    Tell us more about this strong mind of yours.
     
  10. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    Most adapted to what, and to do what?
     
  11. Cortex_Colossum Banned Banned

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    To the outside world. A very active social life and happiness overall. Satisfaction can be a badge of the strong mind perhaps? Or perhaps there is a more evidential sign of a strong mind that I'm not getting?
     
  12. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    Do you think that being 'adapted to the outside world' is the only way, or the best way, to have 'very active social life and happiness overall'? And that the happiness a person gets from this adaptation is as good as it gets, ever, for anyone?


    You said:

    So I presume you know well about the 'strong mind'.
     
  13. weed_eater_guy It ain't broke, don't fix it! Registered Senior Member

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    A connotation I have to "a strong mind" is stubbornness. Just me though
     
  14. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    No, because a strong mind seperates the facts from bullshit.
     
  15. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    And how does a strong mind know the difference between facts and bullshit?
     
  16. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    I would say a strong mind is one that does what it does not want to do, because its the right thing to do.
     
  17. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    Bullshit filters: $3/dozen from Wal-Mart.
     
  18. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Education, research, ferreting out the truth and questioning stuff as well as many other ways to gain a strong mind.
     
  19. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    So a strong mind is willing to sacrifice happiness for truth / for morality?
     
  20. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    But happiness can be truth!
     
  21. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    So if I was standing strong in the practice of filming my erotic games with livestock under the influence of drugs with blaring death metal music, and criticized you for knocking it with out trying it, that would be a strong mind?



    Your going to find a wide range of responses unless you hone down what people are actually talking about when they say "mind".
     
  22. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Its the one with the will/discipline to make the right choice, whether for morality, prudence or delayed gratification.

    I think the ability to deny yourself for later or selfless interest is one of the most difficult things to do consistently
     
  23. Tnerb Banned Banned

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    Nietzsche's overman:
    [story of philosophy will durant]
    Friedrich Nietzsche 395



    O The Superman



    Just as morality lies not in kindness but in strength, so the goal of
    human effort should be not the elevation of all but the development of
    finer and stronger individuals. "Not mankind, but superman is the
    goal." The very last thing a sensible man would undertake would be
    to improve mankind: mankind does not improve, it does not even
    exist it is an abstraction; all that exists is a vast ant-hill of individuals.
    The aspect of the whole is much more like that of a huge experimental
    work-shop where some things in every age succeed, while most things
    fail; and the aim of all the experiments is not the happiness of the
    mass but the improvement of the type. Better that societies should
    come to an end than that no higher type should appear. Society is an
    instrument for the enhancement of the power and personality of the
    individual; the group is not an end in itself. "To what purpose then
    are the machines, if all individuals are only of use in maintaining
    them? Machines" or social organizations "that are ends in them-
    selvesis that the umana commedia?" 7G

    At first Nietzsche spoke as if his hope were for the production of
    a new species; 70 later he came to think of his superman as the superior
    individual rising precariously out of the mire of mass mediocrity, and
    owing his existence more to deliberate breeding and careful nurture
    than to the hazards of natural selection. For the biological process is
    biased against the exceptional individual; nature is most cruel to her
    finest products; she loves rather, and protects, the average and the
    mediocre; there is in nature a perpetual reversion to type, to the level
    of the mass, a recurrent mastery of the best by the most. 77 The super-
    man can survive only by human selection, by eugenic foresight and
    an ennobling education.

    Mow absurd it is, after all, to let higher individuals marry for love-
    heroes with servant girls, and geniuses with seamstresses! Schopen-
    hauer was wrong; love is not eugenic; when a man is in love he should


    not be permitted to make decisions affecting his entire life; it is not
    given to man to love and be wise. We should declare invalid the vows
    of lovers and should make love a legal impediment to marriage. The
    best should marry only the best; love should be left to the rabble. The
    purpose of marriage is not merely reproduction, it should also be
    development.
     

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