Homework essay help Was Africa a place without a history

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  1. ecneics Registered Member

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    I have to write an essay and I have to use primary sources. I had no trouble finding them but a lot of the primary sources contradict each other. The subject of the essay is was Africa a uncivilized place barbaric place........

    So with some people ancient historians with different opinions who is right ?
     
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  3. Pandaemoni Valued Senior Member

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    I am not one to interfere with a homework assignment, but if the topic is "Was Africa a place without a history" then I suspect the topic is framed in a way that is supposed to compel yuou to answer "Africa has a history."

    First, every place has a history, even if it is only a geological history, so the absurdity of the topic leads me to conclude that it is trying to force a particular answer. If the topic were "The history of subsaharan Africa had little impact on the development of modern culture" that might be less suggestive.

    Second, I don't think the goal is to utterly ignor or disprove any sources. If there are sources onm both sides, you present both sides. In this particular case you have to ask whether the "pro-history" commentators are making facts up, or if the "anti-history" arguers are. Assuming there is emotion and bias on both sides, you try to boil down the "facts" being asserted. Some asserted "facts" will prove untenably biased, like "Negroes are like animals." All men are animals for heavens' sakes.

    On the other hand, it seems likely that Zanj do dance and play instruments (including the tambourine). The Ethiopians may or may not have fought (or defeated) the Dhu Nowas, but in both cases those seem to be facts (or not) capable of independent investigation. You can distill some facts from these narratives and see if they can be independently corroborated. (Note though that if the topic of your paper were on the pervasiveness of racism, for example, then those statements of opinion are themselves strong (and primary) evidence. The nature of what you are looking for is a factor in determining how credible you should find a given source.)

    Most likely the point of the assignment is to parse through the sources in this way to demonstrate how you analyze them and why you feel some sources are superior to others. The reasons you favor some sources over others should then be clearly stated for the reader.

    Once you have established why certain sources are credible and others not (in your view, at least; objectively speaking, there is no right or wrong) you can then apply the credible sources to the overarching question of the paper.
     
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  5. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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  7. desi Valued Senior Member

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    Northern Africa has a different history than the rest of Africa as Northern Africa was home to Carthage/Phoenicia and Egypt. The rest of Africa seems to have been inhabited by two types of black peoples. The traditional tribal ones and a nomadic people called the San who lived in small hunter groups and used poisoned arrows. The movie The God's Must be Crazy gets into the differences a bit.
     
  8. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    There is no "right" and "wrong" in history. There is only narrative from both perspectives which go on until the dominant narrative survives. The fact that conflicting narratives can survive is a tribute to freedom of expression. There is no place without history, just places where history was not recorded or where due to wars and turmoil, storytellers or recorded history was lost.

    Fortunately, some of the blanks can be filled in by painstaking research

    http://web.cocc.edu/cagatucci/classes/hum211/timelines/htimeline.htm
     
  9. River Ape Valued Senior Member

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    Historians make a distinction between History -- based on the written record -- and Archaeology -- based on the interpretation of artefacts. This is what comes to my mind when I read the title of the required essay.

    Writing began in the Middle East, including Egypt -- which country has almost more history than anywhere else. However, much of Africa is devoid of indigenous written records, so we have only the impressions of outsiders: Arab traders until the 15th Century, and then European explorers and colonists. One may say, therefore, that there is an historical void in regard to Africa that does not exist in Europe or Asia.
     
  10. fantasus Registered Senior Member

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    Ethiopia was an ancient litterate society witrh a long history - one of the oldest christian churches and empires. Nubia southern egypt and sudan a very old civilisation too
     
  11. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    The San are the tribe whose more adventurous members migrated out of Africa around 50,000BCE, becoming the ancestors of all non-African people. The "traditional tribal" Africans were just as nomadic as the San, since the technology of agriculture wasn't invented until 9,000BCE and the only way for all humans to feed themselves was to follow the game. At one point between those two eras, the Sahara became the desert it is today and the African people withdrew to the sub-Saharan regions. The climate recovered slightly and North Africa was repopulated by migrants from Asia, the descendants of the San. (The Afro-Asiatic language family includes Ancient Egyptian and Amharic as well as Hebrew, Arabic and Aramaic).

    The Phoenicians were a Semitic people (related to the Canaanites) from western Asia. They were great seafarers who traded throughout the Mediterranean. Roman legends say that Carthage was founded by Phoenicians but I don't think this has been determined with certainty. The city was obliterated so many times that it's hard to find any evidence to analyze.
    Actually five of the world's six civilizations invented the technology of writing. The four in the Old World (Mesopotamia, Egypt, India and China) invented it at roughly the same time, around 4000BCE. (Olmec civilization was founded much later than the Old World civilizations and they didn't invent writing until about 3,000 years later; Inca civilization was even younger and they didn't have a chance to invent writing before they were destroyed by the Europeans.)

    Mesopotamia was the first civilization and is a couple of thousand years older than Egypt.
    Sub-Saharan Africa is not the only large, populated area to which this applies. You can say the same thing about Oceania, Australia, northeastern Asia, the part of North America that is now the USA and Canada, and, since the Incas left no written records, by your standards also South America.
     
  12. Mr. Hamtastic whackawhackado! Registered Senior Member

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    Appeal to relativism! The natives didn't think they were barbarous or uncivilized, therefore they weren't! Essay finished!

    If it needs to be longer I suggest looking up relativism and writing about how that came about.
     
  13. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    The word "civilization" is often sloppily used in vernacular conversation as shorthand for "a culture sufficiently far advanced for me to feel kindly toward it." But this is a place of science and we should use our words more precisely, especially when acting in our role as elders and teaching the young. "Civilization" has a standard meaning. It is characterized by:
    • Agriculture. The Neolithic Revolution was the precursor to civilization. The cultivation of crops (farming, one half of agriculture) both required and permitted formerly nomadic hunter-gatherers to build permanent settlements, learn to live in harmony and cooperation with people outside their immediate families, and develop technologies that utilized or created artifacts too large or pointless to carry.
    • Cities. True civilization is, literally, "city-building," and it required us to make the final evolution away from our primate lifestyle: learning to live in harmony and cooperation with strangers. We overcame (imperfectly and with considerable backsliding) our pack-social instinct and began making the transition to a herd-social species.
    • Massive economies of scale, intricate division of labor, and major surplus production of goods and services. These three phenomena reinforce each other, and none can occur in a village. They make specialization possible so we have full-time professional shoemakers, roofers and blacksmiths. The resulting extra food and other basic goods and services make it possible for some of us to be full-time professional teachers, artists, scientists, pastry chefs and musicians.
    • Elaborate social hierarchy. When people who may not even be acquainted with each other must cooperate to produce things that will be used in the future (and perhaps used to produce other things), planning and management become full-time professions. Whether leadership is elected, inherited, assigned by ability or seized by force, somebody has to do it--in multiple levels.
    Some of the sub-Saharan African tribes had reached the point of experimenting with agriculture (I think it was animal husbandry more than farming) and therefore were on the cusp of the Neolithic Revolution. But they never built cities.
     
  14. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    Pretty sure there is a lot of history in Africa, yet to be discovered.
     
  15. Pandaemoni Valued Senior Member

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    I have heard of Great Zimbabwe referred to as a "city" though it then raises the question of how that is defined.
     
  16. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    Ancient Zimbabwe was constructed during historical times, during the first three centuries of the second millennium CE. By this time sub-Saharan Africa had been visited for centuries by explorers, traders and exploiters from the Egyptian, Ethiopian, Arab, Greek, Persian, Roman, Byzantine and Ottoman civilizations.

    Zimbabwe was certainly a city. But like Athens, Rome, Carthage, London, Paris, etc., the technology of civilization (literally "the building of cities") was probably imported rather than invented independently. Technologies are composed primarily of ideas and therefore they travel easily. That would make it an outpost of one of the earth's original six civilizations, rather than adding a seventh to the list.
     
  17. Meursalt Comatose Registered Senior Member

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    That's a good answer. The opening question disregards the point that it appears African civilisations didn't develop much in the way of writing, as far as we know.

    African civilisations have always been at a disadvantage because no one actually wrote anything about them in a romantic sense... therefore no one ever went looking for their remains.

    Ask yourself what inspired Schliemann to go looking for Troy.
    Was it natural curiosity, or curiosity inspired by Homer?
     
  18. Meursalt Comatose Registered Senior Member

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    How certain can you be of that?

    Consider the importance and impact of written language upon civilisation, and then factor in prejudice with regard to written records and "history".
    In terms of pure size and influence, does anyone actually know what role "Zimbabwe" played in the history of Africa and what led to its eventual demise?
    Does anyone actually know when it arose to begin with, or even consider that it is one of the very few African cities we have any knowledge of at all?

    Uruk came and went within the course of a thousand years or so... and possibly only died as a result of the effect of environmental destruction. We have even less information regarding the rise of Zimbabwe.
    We can only surmise as to the what led to the demise of Uruk through surviving written records. We can only surmise what led to the fall of Catal Hoyuk. These conclusions are conjecture, at best.
    Without writing we have very little to go on.
     
  19. Sputnik Banned Banned

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    Parts of ancient Africa was very civilized .... north Africa had the Egyptian pharaonic empire ...later that area was under greek influence ( Ptolemais, one of Alexander the great`s generals took over ) .... and then it became roman after the fall of Cleopatra , the western parts of north Africa was under the phoenicians and later the romans .... later under the vandals ... and then under the byzantines .......
    Further down Ethiopia was an ancient superpower ....... with civilization, coinage, written language , religion and a big army .... controlling adjacent countries including part of Arabia and traded with India .....
    Benin had old civilizations as did Zimbabwe ..........
     
  20. Brian019 Registered Member

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    Beware Afrocentrism

    Keep an eye out for misleading accounts by Afrocentrist's (a common one is that the Egyptians were black). A good book on this is 'Not Out of Africa: How Afrocentrism Became an Excuse to Teach Myth as History' by Mary Lefkowitz.
     
  21. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Africa was home of many advanced civilizations before white people came and destroyed them, leading to the myth of Africans as uncivilized barbarians.
     
  22. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    Correct. The barbarians were those that stole the African`s lands, enslaved them, and force fed them incongruous religions.
     
  23. stereologist Escapee from Dr Moreau Registered Senior Member

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    I spent 6 months traveling in Africa and found an interesting idea there. North of the Sahara I got the impression that the people there did not consider themselves a part of Africa, but of the Mediterranean. The people south of the Sahara considered the area north of the desert not a part of Africa.

    A lack of a written record in sub-Saharan Africa makes an understanding of the area all the more difficult. The ransacking of much of Great Zimbabwe has made that site also difficult to understand. I was there and spent the better part of a day hiking around. It is a pretty place although not made by aliens as Von Daniken claimed.

    As we can see from the posts so far the word barbarian is being used to refer to 'the other side'. I too would be wary of the Afro-Centric claims. There is no pan-African culture.

    Africa is a huge continent with the largest sand dune areas in the world, the longest river in the world, and fabulous places to visit. History is another question. Human history is written. Most areas of Africa did not write a history. One of the interesting issues to write about might be the rock art of the Hoggar mountains.

    Here is a link to get you started:
    http://www.banknotes.com/dz143.htm

    Although this is not a typical written language it does record information about the past.
     

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