Afghanistan - What is the objective?

**StrawDog** · 03-11-09, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by Baron Max

Islamic state? That's where women have to cover up their bodies and faces in public? Where girls are not permitted to go to school? Where men can beat their wives without the slightest reprimand? Ahh, that Islamic state?

Baron Max

Yawn.

**S.A.M.** · 03-11-09, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by Baron Max

While Europe and the white race progressed, with medicines and technology and buildings and highways, Afghanistan struggled in tribal wars and conflict and have virtually nothing to show for any of it. It's hard to feel any sympathy for a people who are so backward and still want to force their fellows to remain that backwards.

Baron Max

They've outlasted all the "great civilisations". Maybe one of these days they'll be sitting around in their mountains making stories about yours.

**Baron Max** · 03-11-09, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by S.A.M.

They've outlasted all the "great civilisations". Maybe one of these days they'll be sitting around in their mountains making stories about yours.

That's easy to do, SAM, when you do nothing and your nation is nothing but mud huts and donkey carts!!

Yeah, they might be sitting around in their caves one day talking about all this, but that's where they'll be ....in fuckin' caves with nothing to show for gazillions of years of existence.

Baron Max

**S.A.M.** · 03-11-09, 07:04 PM

Yeah, unlike the Greeks, Romans, Mongols, colonials. They'll still be living their simple lives and disturbing no one else, only defending what is theirs.

**Baron Max** · 03-11-09, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by S.A.M.

.... They'll still be living their simple lives and disturbing no one else, only defending what is theirs.

Defending nothing is easy, SAM! The Afghanis have nothing, virtually nothing after gazillions of years of existence. SAM, I don't think you should exhibit such pride in such lazy fuckin' people.

Baron Max

**S.A.M.** · 03-11-09, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by Baron Max

Defending nothing is easy, SAM! The Afghanis have nothing, virtually nothing after gazillions of years of existence. SAM, I don't think you should exhibit such pride in such lazy fuckin' people.

Baron Max

Strange then, how all empires go there to die. Whatever they have, everyone else seems to eventually end up there.

**Baron Max** · 03-11-09, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by S.A.M.

Strange then, how all empires go there to die. Whatever they have, everyone else seems to eventually end up there.

What??!! What the fuck are you trying to say with that insane statement?

Baron Max

**S.A.M.** · 03-11-09, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by Baron Max

What??!! What the fuck are you trying to say with that insane statement?

Baron Max

You don't know that Afghanistan is called "the graveyard of empires"?

**Baron Max** · 03-11-09, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by S.A.M.

You don't know that Afghanistan is called "the+graveyard+of+empires"?

It might be called that, but it don't mean that it is.

Baron Max

**S.A.M.** · 03-11-09, 07:39 PM

Ask the Greeks, Persians, Arabs, Buddhists, Mongols, British and Russians.

**Buffalo Roam** · 03-11-09, 07:47 PM

nietzschefan

in early 1994, Omar led 30 men armed with 16 rifles to free two girls who had been kidnapped and raped by local commanders.[14] His movement gained momentum through the year, and he quickly gathered recruits from Islamic schools. By November 1994, Omar's movement managed to capture the province of Kandahar and then captured Herat in September 1995.[15]

When did the Afghanistan war end? February 15, 1989, we stopped suppling the Afghan and the Muhajideen shortly after that, and Omar doesn't show up until 5 years after.

**S.A.M.** · 03-11-09, 07:58 PM

What part of "its the same guy" is hard to comprehend?

**DiamondHearts** · 03-11-09, 08:05 PM

Baron, Europe and the WHITE RACE? What are you, a white supremacist?

**Buffalo Roam** · 03-11-09, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by S.A.M.

What part of "its the same guy" is hard to comprehend?

What don't you comprehend that Omar fought as a guerilla with the Harakat-i Inqilab-i Islami, He was not a leader, and the Taliban didn't exist.

Yes, 5 years later, Omar the Guerilla became, Omar of the Taliban, and by that time, the U.S. was no longer supplying any arms to Afghanistan, the war was over in 1989, no need to supply the Muhajideen, the Russian's packed up their toys and went HOME, what don't you understand about that?

**S.A.M.** · 03-11-09, 08:38 PM

Him and all the other Taliban. Received money arms and training. Did the arms disappear when the US left? All $2 billion of it?

Even their madrassah training was carried out under the exegesis of Pakistan's ISI with USD. For those five years when the US abandoned the economy and society, they were funding Pakistan but not assisting the Afghanis. Its why the society went to pieces.

**nietzschefan** · 03-12-09, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by Buffalo Roam

What don't you comprehend that Omar fought as a guerilla with the Harakat-i Inqilab-i Islami, He was not a leader, and the Taliban didn't exist.

Yes, 5 years later, Omar the Guerilla became, Omar of the Taliban, and by that time, the U.S. was no longer supplying any arms to Afghanistan, the war was over in 1989, no need to supply the Muhajideen, the Russian's packed up their toys and went HOME, what don't you understand about that?

LMAO

Typical...you really were in the U.S military...CIA maybe? When you were giving him arms - he's a good guy, when you don't any longer - and he still carries on, they still carry on you know...and it's still your problem and responsibility. When will you guys learn?? Seriously.

**Michael** · 03-12-09, 04:13 AM

Originally Posted by nietzschefan

What do you mean "us" do you hope to obtain Afganistan and indefinitly hold it or by proxy like South Korea? Waste of money EVEN IF THAT WAS SUCCESSFUL.

Fuck it. Mission "Failed"(according again to the "Official" conspiracy theory), OBL got away, Al Quada has splintered to who knows how many fucking crazies with their own arcane agendas.

Pull out, pull back. Lock down technology with other nuclear powers to ensure these primitive fuckers never get a nuke and just let the world pass them by. Stop giving them an "Enemy" to fight and they will whither on the vine.

You got my vote.

**~~John99~~** · 03-12-09, 04:27 AM

Originally Posted by S.A.M.

Him and all the other Taliban. Received money arms and training. Did the arms disappear when the US left? All $2 billion of it?

Even their madrassah training was carried out under the exegesis of Pakistan's ISI with USD. For those five years when the US abandoned the economy and society, they were funding Pakistan but not assisting the Afghanis. Its why the society went to pieces.

The U.S should not have got involved or help them win the war. After the war the U.S made a clean break, what were they supposed to do?

Who the hell told these people to help anyway?

**~~John99~~** · 03-12-09, 04:50 AM

and wtf was wrong with this Charlie Wilson guy?

**Michael** · 03-12-09, 05:54 AM

Originally Posted by John99

The U.S should not have got involved or help them win the war. After the war the U.S made a clean break, what were they supposed to do?

Who the hell told these people to help anyway?

Yeah, that was a HUGE mistake. They should have let Afghanistan become a satellite of the USSR. Right now the place would be run by some dictator like all the other blah-blah-stans, not many freedoms but a lot more stability.