02-24-09, 05:04 PM #361
Here is one guys take on it
02-24-09, 05:05 PM #362
02-24-09, 05:08 PM #363
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02-24-09, 05:12 PM #365
I rewrote a bit of my last post. Anyway, Japan will stabilize at about 80 million from 120 million. The better question is: Who wants to be stuck in a 3 billion peopled India when the next famine hits and cannibalism becomes the norm. I promise you SAM, an when the next panpedemic hits you'll get your little arse onto the first plane to the West.
Why is population stabilization considered "dieing"? We're bloody eating this planet to death. Even in China they estimate they without population control - their be about 600 MILLION more poor Chinese on this planet. When India is bursting at the seams and their little or no land left - well, we'll see what a "living" society can and will do.
02-24-09, 05:12 PM #366
Shepherd has also stated that he would "boil someone and eat them up"
02-24-09, 05:18 PM #367
Anyway, like I said, Japan will stableize at 80 million. Right now, yeah, it's the downsizing time do it's tough, but in the future, it will be fine and no I doubt they will import 40 million people, some more yes, 40 million more maybe not. Not that I really care - I think 15 trillion people are not needed on this planet.
02-24-09, 05:18 PM #368
02-24-09, 05:21 PM #369
committing suicide as progressive, who am I to complain?
We're becoming some of the happiest people in the world. So if they want to make room, we won't object. I see a distinct shift in the way Indians are moving and its all forward. Even though surprisingly, we are also getting married less and having less children
02-24-09, 05:25 PM #370
If this man is guilty and if he committed this murder as an 'honor' killing because his wife wished to divorce him, then I don't think that should be used as a defense of his actions or seen as an acceptable defense in the court of law. That's all I am saying. Again, I would say the same of any religion, this article just happened to be about a Muslim man.
Now ask me if I think the American Media portrays Muslims in a discriminatory light? Oh YES. But wait, you were to busy jumping to conclusions to think that you and I might actually share a common opinion.
The reason I brought up this article in the first place was because of the references the media made to Muslims and 'honor' killings. Why couldn't they have just stated "Man Admits to Beheading Wife?". As if it makes a difference why he did it. If he truly did cut his wife's head off, he is guilty of murder and it really doesn't matter whether he was Muslim or not, does it?
I found the article interesting because of the way the media dragged race and religion into it, like it should make a difference in how this man is tried and sentenced.
As for the rest of your post, the links you posted on Pappas did not work so I was unable to read them.
I'm confused as to why you are so determined to make me out to be racist towards Muslims when that was not my intent at all.
Maybe my OP was not clear enough, but I was simply stating what was being reported at the time, not my personal opinion. I wanted to know what people thought of the article because I found it to be rather biased and sensationalized. That is why I asked people to 'discuss respectfully and attempt to not be racist'.
02-24-09, 05:28 PM #371
What I found most interesting was what you got out of the news articles you linked to.
There was almost zero connection to your questions, none of which were supported by any of the articles.
If we consider this as the gist of your unconscious gleaning from the articles, why would you have these notions about Muslims, honor killing, using it as an excuse for murder or being let off for it?
Why did you even think that was there anywhere?
02-24-09, 05:32 PM #372
My point wasn't so much this particular incident in itself, but rather the idea behind it. Religion as defense for murder.
Next time, I will be more clear.
02-24-09, 05:35 PM #373
If you look back at the other three guys who dismembered/cooked/ate their insignificant others, you'll note not only that no one was interested in their religion, but sadly hardly anyone was interested in those womens deaths either. And they all happened within the year.
02-24-09, 05:41 PM #374
I studied cross-cultural images of women (mostly Muslim women) in my last quarter of college and actually wrote my thesis for the class. It was inetresting to delve deep into the stereotypes of Muslims the American media portrays and manipulates the American people with.
It was why this particular article caught my attention.
02-24-09, 05:43 PM #375
02-24-09, 05:51 PM #376
Two of my group members were Muslim and they gave an amazing presentation for our final project on what it meant to be Muslim, especially a Muslim woman, and how American society knows so little and is completely manipulated by the media. I found it to be probably the most informative presentation all quarter.
02-24-09, 05:52 PM #377
Yeah, unfortunately many Muslim women come with Eastern baggage were its rude to tell people how foolish they sound.
Fortunately, we're quick learners.
02-24-09, 06:00 PM #378
The class itself really helped to expose the biases and stereotypes that go along with any culture and how we need to move beyond them in order to better understand one another
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