Religion in Science forum not allowed?

**DiamondHearts** · 11-20-08, 08:02 AM

Originally Posted by Stryder

All Religion is not Science and you are discussing Religion on Science forum. That's like going to a Vegetarian Restaurant with a delivery meant for a Butcher's. If you want a subservient crowd to listen intently with all belief at your lectures on Religion, then you will find yourself preaching in the wrong place.

I do not hide my own convictions in regards to Religion, I detest each of them Equally, however I know due to P.C. (Political Correctness, the Apathy of the Masses) I have to put up with them because "it's a simpler life". This is why I'm not going to preach to you that your's or any other Religion is wrong, foundered on Lies, Deceit and Indoctrination. Even if that is what I know to be true based on Historical repetition of the same actions.

This thread however was hijacked by indoctrinated and twisted views of and around "Religion", Hijacked by peoples own beliefs that they want to force down the necks of other posters here at Sciforum's. It was tolerated previously because of how things had to pan out on their own, however it's being stopped now. This thread lost it's purpose when it was hijacked, so it's being closed.

From this thread: http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=87774&page=17.

So the question I wish to ask is, is it not allowed to defend a hate-filled portrayal of one's religious beliefs in a science forum? Are all scientists atheists, and if one is not, does that make him less of a scientist?

This important question needs to be asked because it seems that atheists feel that this forum belongs solely to them, and they can make the most outrageous claims against other people's religious beliefs and expect them to stay quiet.

In the past thread, I have not, nor has anyone else, engaged in preaching except self-ascribed atheists who feel it is their divine task to force religious people to swallow their propaganda and hate-filled view of the world.

Those of you who are Christians, take a side-step away from attacking Islam and listen. This is an important topic which needs to be discussed. Whether religion is allowed in Sciforums or not, whether outrageous false claims against other religions should be allowed to be posted without being criticized, and whether atheists can be the only logical people and all religious people are illogical.

**S.A.M.** · 11-20-08, 08:07 AM

atheists feel that this forum belongs solely to them

Yes it does. Didn't you know that? I remember the first time I complained to a religion moderator about harassment in the religion subforum and he said something like, I don't see any harassment. So, its pointless to complain. Give it up.

**Mr. Hamtastic** · 11-20-08, 08:12 AM

Why else would I decide to turn away from the religion forum? There is no discussion of religion, just bashing religion. I found that I started considering them all to be slightly less than Norsefire, so I decided to get away from it. There's no point wasting my breath.

**~~phlogistician~~** · 11-20-08, 08:13 AM

It's nothing to do with hate. This atheist doesn't hate, he just reckons all religions are bullshit. I feel sorry for people that fall for the bullshit. It's pity, not hate.

**S.A.M.** · 11-20-08, 08:16 AM

Strange how the pity feels so much like hate.

**Mr. Hamtastic** · 11-20-08, 08:17 AM

I see, the chants of how evil my beliefs are is just kind concern, huh?

**S.A.M.** · 11-20-08, 08:22 AM

Its like the chant of the homophobes: its not the homosexuals we hate, its homosexuality. When they "see" the truth, they will be saved.

All pity of course, for the precarious homosexual soul.

**Mr. Hamtastic** · 11-20-08, 08:27 AM

I like the whole,"It's not you we hate, it is your beliefs..." Like saying,"You're not ugly at all, just your face."

**~~phlogistician~~** · 11-20-08, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by S.A.M.

Strange how the pity feels so much like hate.

You're a petty little hate monger who needs to validate herself by having an enemy. Sorry SAM, but I find you pathetic, not loathsome.

You continually lied and obfuscated, putting words into atheists mouths, and it seems your demotion has taught you nothing.

Welcome to my ignore list, now I can ignore you.

**~~phlogistician~~** · 11-20-08, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by Mr. Hamtastic

I like the whole,"It's not you we hate, it is your beliefs..." Like saying,"You're not ugly at all, just your face."

Sorry, who hates?

I just find blind faith saddening. Especially when groups of people with the same blind faith decide they can go off and stone someone to death, or start labelling people as sinners, or heathens, and start seeking to make their misguided values law.

If your faith was strong, it would remain personal. Only people with psychological problems need to band together into support groups.

**S.A.M.** · 11-20-08, 08:57 AM

Only people with psychological problems need to band together into support groups.

Like the Atheist Out movement?

Got your A tee shirt yet?

**~~John99~~** · 11-20-08, 08:57 AM

I dont see what the problem is. Just dont endlessly preach and make spectacles. No one needs to go on and on and on about what religion they are.

**Simon Anders** · 11-20-08, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by phlogistician

It's nothing to do with hate. This atheist doesn't hate, he just reckons all religions are bullshit. I feel sorry for people that fall for the bullshit. It's pity, not hate.

Is this like when some Christians say they hate the homosexuality but not the homosexual?

**~~John99~~** · 11-20-08, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by Simon Anders

Is this like when some Christians say they hate the homosexuality but not the homosexual?

No. It's like when you say you hate homosexuals and not homosexuality.

**Simon Anders** · 11-20-08, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by S.A.M.

Strange how the pity feels so much like hate.

Pity, as opposed to sympathy, includes a sense of superiority. Feeling that one is superior can be a way of avoiding feeling the hate one would feel if one considered the other an equal.

**S.A.M.** · 11-20-08, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by phlogistician

You're a petty little hate monger who needs to validate herself by having an enemy. Sorry SAM, but I find you pathetic, not loathsome.

You continually lied and obfuscated, putting words into atheists mouths, and it seems your demotion has taught you nothing.

Welcome to my ignore list, now I can ignore you.

I feel the love !!!!!

**(Q)** · 11-20-08, 09:44 AM

Strange, I'm sure the surgeon doesn't feel hatred towards the cancer he would cut out of a body, why would an atheist feel hatred towards cutting out the cancer of religion from society? Bad ideologies aren't hated because they're bad, but they might be hated if the followers of that religion decide to use the ideology for violence.

**~~phlogistician~~** · 11-20-08, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by Simon Anders

Is this like when some Christians say they hate the homosexuality but not the homosexual?

If it's nothing to do with hate, how can there be a parallel?

It's about pity, that some people are deranged or desperate enough to swallow religion.

**S.A.M.** · 11-20-08, 09:46 AM

http://johnseilerblogs.com/?p=601

**(Q)** · 11-20-08, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by Simon Anders

Pity, as opposed to sympathy, includes a sense of superiority. Feeling that one is superior can be a way of avoiding feeling the hate one would feel if one considered the other an equal.

I'm sure a sense of sympathy towards those whose minds are held captive by religion is forthright, but only to the point of what the enslaved mind is prepared to action in defense of their religion, which might then activate a sense of pity.