10-21-08, 05:13 PM #21
I don't know..but I bet they got some good ones. What's "baby killer" in Arabic?
10-21-08, 05:16 PM #22
I was speaking the other day with Scott Pelley of CBS News's "60 Minutes" about the mood in Iraq. He had just returned from filming a piece there and he told me something disturbing. Scott had gone around and asked Iraqis on the streets what they called American troops - wondering if they had nicknames for us in the way we used to call the Nazis "Krauts" or the Vietcong "Charlie." And what did he find? "Many Iraqis have so much distrust for U.S. forces we found they've come up with a nickname for our troops," Scott said. "They call American soldiers 'The Jews,' as in, 'Don't go down that street, the Jews set up a roadblock.' "
10-21-08, 05:16 PM #23
>>edit This is in response to post #16. You guys got way ahead of me.
You misunderstand. Hadji in the show was well liked. Jonny and Hadji were adoptive brothers and best friends. Hadji was Jonny's equal. They would find themselves in perilous situations and Hadji was as likely as Jonny to be the one to find the way out, or they would solve the difficulty together.
My point was that the term 'Hadji' as American's use it went through a period where it had no negative conotations at all. If anything, it would be complimentary, albeit perhaps slightly patronizing and mildly humorous.
I'm not trying to justify any sort of namecalling, but the op was about how the word came to be used currently, and I thought this was relevent.
10-21-08, 05:24 PM #24
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10-21-08, 11:04 PM #26
Niger is the Latin word for "black," from which Spanish negro and French noir are descended. The colonial powers named some of their African territories after the tribes who lived there, but in a few cases they came up with some colossally unimaginative names. The French named one of their colonies Niger, and the Brits named one of theirs Nigeria, based on that Latin word for "black." Today Niger is an independent country, but it's wrestling with the reality that when most anglophones read their name aloud it comes out sounding like "nigger," when in fact it's supposed to have a French pronunciation: nee-ZHAIR. There's a bird seed mix that is traditionally called "Niger seed," and I notice that pet and garden shops now spell it "Nyjer."
The Jews have the same problem with the Yiddish word that literally means "black person: shvartze, from German schwarz. Somehow African-Americans got the idea that it is a derogatory term and demanded that they stop using it. I don't know what they picked to replace it; there aren't many people in America (or anywhere else) who speak Yiddish any more."Redneck" was slang for a farmer who was out in the sun all day, therefore, someone having a red neck.The same goes for the word "bitch." Back in the day when anyone called a woman a "bitch," they were referring to her as a dog in heat; a woman who was more than just sexually active. Today, when you hear the word "bitch," it is far more tame. To say a woman is a "bitch" is like saying she's hard to get along with or that she's self-serving.
This is certainly counterintuitive, since the promiscuity of female dogs is legendary. They deliberately mate with every male they can, with the result that they all think the puppies might be theirs and will protect them. (In my experience as a dog breeder, they need to be protected from the other females, who really are "bitches" in both senses of the word.) The expression "son of a bitch" reinforces the supposition that "bitch" means "prostitute," and the current rap-thug-street slang of "bitches" for lowly women just adds to it. In other languages the term is "son of a whore."What I don't understand is the use of the word "n*gger." Blacks call each other that epithet all the time, but if we refer to a Black person as a "n*gger," all hell breaks loose. I would think it is just as insulting for a Black to call another Black a "n*gger." If we're going to get that word out of our vocabulary, that should apply to Blacks, too.
10-21-08, 11:44 PM #27
Oh...off topic...Johnny Quest had a really bad ass theme. Here's a native rockabilly band from Dallas..Reverend Horton Heat..with their version of the theme.
The band commented it was one of the hardest songs they ever recorded as it changes keys so many times .
10-22-08, 12:25 PM #28Haji must be a given name in some Asian culture. There was a restaurant named Haji Baba in Los Angeles forty years ago.
Haji is attached as a prefix like Mister.
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