Does God have a God?

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  1. 11parcal Saint of Cynicism Registered Senior Member

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    I suppose a similar question would be: if God created us what created God?

    Or is God his own God, and would that make him a Satanist?

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  3. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    There can only be one First Cause/Prime Mover.
     
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  5. John99 Banned Banned

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    ^^ No because a free man has no master.
     
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  7. 11parcal Saint of Cynicism Registered Senior Member

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    But something must have triggered that first cause, there has to be some sort of infinite chain going on or I find it highly improbable that the universe exists, I am basically asking the religious version of: What caused the big bang?
     
  8. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    IF there is 1, you have no way of knowing what the 1st cause is. For all you know, there could be many gods at different levels. The god you worship could worship a higher god who worships a yet higher god. The Holy Babble isn't even clearly against this possibility.
     
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  9. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    Logicly, if 1 says the universe must have been created, 1 must say the same of whatever created the universe.
    They seem to think they get around it by saying god wasn't created. It's absurd but that's their story & they're sticking to it.
     
  10. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    There is good reason to believe that the god of gods is a turtle.
     
  11. 11parcal Saint of Cynicism Registered Senior Member

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    Yeah, there are alot of paradoxes and contradictions in religion.
     
  12. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    Impossible. Then it wouldn't be the first cause.

    Impossible. An infinite regression of causality is logically absurd because if the past were infinite, then time would never arrive at the present.

    An infinite level mage by the name of God...

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  13. 11parcal Saint of Cynicism Registered Senior Member

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    Then this is but a virtual reality in a universe that makes sense...

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  14. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

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    Yep! It's turtles ALL THE WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY.............................................................................................................................

    Thus it can't be true any more than a square triangle.

    OK. He should have put first cause in quotations. The meaming was yet clear.

    I easily see how that seems so to some but a 1st cause, something existing without being caused, is even more absurd.

    This may be the most absurd thing I've ever heard or read or thought possible for a fool to claim.
     
  15. Mr. Hamtastic whackawhackado! Registered Senior Member

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    God doesn't have to prove himself to us, silly goosies.
     
  16. OilIsMastery Banned Banned

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    If Aristotle is an absurd fool then I'm in good company.
     
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  17. Mr. Hamtastic whackawhackado! Registered Senior Member

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    Absurd? Nono here's absurd: Stranger is an example of a truly open mind. lololol THAT's absurd.
     
  18. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Why not?
     
  19. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    You've been reading philosophy. I'm impressed.

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  20. Mr. Hamtastic whackawhackado! Registered Senior Member

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    Infinite regression does not fit into Q's theology of Atheism.
     
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    That is assuming time exists outside the boundaries of our universe. Or did you not take that into account?
     
  22. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Ask yourself this; aside from the creation of zero, what come before the number 1?

    JAN.
     
  23. 11parcal Saint of Cynicism Registered Senior Member

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