My observation: atheists are anti-creativity

Discussion in 'Religion Archives' started by Norsefire, Aug 26, 2008.

  1. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    It seems that atheists think they are so "rational" and love "rationality" so much, it often seems as if atheists are anti-art, anti-philosophy, anti-culture, and anti-creativity.

    Is this the case? After all, "art" isn't "rational", right? Let's just live in a society that has no beliefs, no culture, and no art and music!

    What fun!
     
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  3. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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  5. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, they hate to get off the beaten path. Not proven, you see.

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  7. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Nonsense; atheism needs rationality. Music and art and creativity isn't based on EMPRICICAL EVIDENCE so it isn't rational and really is "unecessary"
     
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  9. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Basically, as spidergoat would say, art and creativity is "unnecessary" and there's no reason to have it:shrug:
     
  10. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    Heh, glad you liked it.

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    Evil music

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  12. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Oli, you see? Art is delusional and not rational and it's unecessary! So is culture, nationality, etc

    What we need is to sit around as "rational beings" with no beliefs and no ideas!

    Right?
     
  13. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    As a rational human being I recognise that I have emotions, a sense of aesthetics and all the rest...
    and then anlayse them

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  14. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Emotions are unnecessary and irrational and can lead to delusion, right?

    pfft....atheists just want people to be robots.
     
  15. shaman_ Registered Senior Member

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    Norsefire you have started some interesting threads but this one should be is just plain stupid.

    Whether or not you believe in a magic sky god has no bearing whatsoever on your appreciation for art culture ect.
     
  16. shaman_ Registered Senior Member

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    I like watching people do the robot. Cracks me up.
     
  17. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Art and culture are irrational, unnecessary, emotional, and can create delusions
     
  18. SnakeLord snakeystew.com Valued Senior Member

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    How so?

    How so?

    Atheists don't have emotions?

    O...k.
     
  19. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    It's not based on the empirical and rational; some of the crazy worlds portrayed in art are not real and thus should not ever be expressed. Art is illogical, irrational, and unnecessary. It has no basis. It can also create beliefs, and we don't want anyone to have any beliefs whatsoever, right?
    See above
    Emotions can lead to beliefs so we can't have emotions.

    We need to be rational, logical, unemotional beings. Right?
     
  20. 11parcal Saint of Cynicism Registered Senior Member

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    Say hello to the biggest load if lies i've ever seen, I'm an athiest and I love art and music, neither of which have ever started a war, religion on the other hand...
     
  21. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    They're irrational, can create passion and beliefs, and unnecessary.
     
  22. 11parcal Saint of Cynicism Registered Senior Member

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    You sound like the borg...
     
  23. SnakeLord snakeystew.com Valued Senior Member

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    How is it not rational? You've said it twice now but haven't explained how.

    They make real the thoughts and ideas of the artist so that others can understand and appreciate the thought.

    Third time now: How so?

    Lol, of course it does. It is a means of communication, a means with which to share ideas and to accomplish needs. Take for instance romantic music. Without it as a facilitator you couldn't even guess how many people would never have got laid. Romantic music says so much more than many people are capable of putting into words. The same goes with other forms of art.

    Of course you can. It might very well cause issues though when you try and shove those beliefs on everyone else, (you knock on my door early Saturday morning just to tell me that I must like rap music or I shall be tortured for eternity).

    Your posts alone are enough to answer that question. No.
     

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