My observation: atheists are anti-creativity

**Norsefire** · 08-25-08, 07:24 PM

It seems that atheists think they are so "rational" and love "rationality" so much, it often seems as if atheists are anti-art, anti-philosophy, anti-culture, and anti-creativity.

Is this the case? After all, "art" isn't "rational", right? Let's just live in a society that has no beliefs, no culture, and no art and music!

What fun!

**Oli** · 08-25-08, 07:46 PM

Authors: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_atheists_(authors)
Film/ Radio/ TV: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...on_and_theatre)
Musicians: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_atheists_(music)

Keep blowing hard...

**S.A.M.** · 08-25-08, 07:47 PM

Yeah, they hate to get off the beaten path. Not proven, you see.

**Norsefire** · 08-25-08, 07:48 PM

Nonsense; atheism needs rationality. Music and art and creativity isn't based on EMPRICICAL EVIDENCE so it isn't rational and really is "unecessary"

**S.A.M.** · 08-25-08, 07:49 PM

Music is evil

It creates delusions.

**Norsefire** · 08-25-08, 07:49 PM

Basically, as spidergoat would say, art and creativity is "unnecessary" and there's no reason to have it

**Oli** · 08-25-08, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by S.A.M.

Music is evil

It creates delusions.

Abso-fraggin-lutely...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlCP6I45z6s

I still listen to this.

**S.A.M.** · 08-25-08, 07:57 PM

Heh, glad you liked it.

Evil music

**Norsefire** · 08-25-08, 07:59 PM

Oli, you see? Art is delusional and not rational and it's unecessary! So is culture, nationality, etc

What we need is to sit around as "rational beings" with no beliefs and no ideas!

Right?

**Oli** · 08-25-08, 08:02 PM

As a rational human being I recognise that I have emotions, a sense of aesthetics and all the rest...
and then anlayse them

**Norsefire** · 08-25-08, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by Oli

As a rational human being I recognise that I have emotions, a sense of aesthetics and all the rest...
and then anlayse them

Emotions are unnecessary and irrational and can lead to delusion, right?

pfft....atheists just want people to be robots.

**shaman_** · 08-25-08, 08:13 PM

Norsefire you have started some interesting threads but this one should be is just plain stupid.

Whether or not you believe in a magic sky god has no bearing whatsoever on your appreciation for art culture ect.

**shaman_** · 08-25-08, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by Norsefire

pfft....atheists just want people to be robots.

I like watching people do the robot. Cracks me up.

**Norsefire** · 08-25-08, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by shaman_

Norsefire you have started some interesting threads but this one should be is just plain stupid.

Whether or not you believe in a magic sky god has no bearing whatsoever on your appreciation for art culture ect.

Art and culture are irrational, unnecessary, emotional, and can create delusions

**SnakeLord** · 08-25-08, 08:19 PM

Art and culture are irrational

How so?

unnecessary

How so?

emotional

Atheists don't have emotions?

and can create delusions

O...k.

**Norsefire** · 08-25-08, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by SnakeLord

How so?

It's not based on the empirical and rational; some of the crazy worlds portrayed in art are not real and thus should not ever be expressed. Art is illogical, irrational, and unnecessary. It has no basis. It can also create beliefs, and we don't want anyone to have any beliefs whatsoever, right?

How so?

See above

Atheists don't have emotions?

Emotions can lead to beliefs so we can't have emotions.

We need to be rational, logical, unemotional beings. Right?

**11parcal** · 08-25-08, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by Norsefire

It seems that atheists think they are so "rational" and love "rationality" so much, it often seems as if atheists are anti-art, anti-philosophy, anti-culture, and anti-creativity.

Is this the case? After all, "art" isn't "rational", right? Let's just live in a society that has no beliefs, no culture, and no art and music!

What fun!

Say hello to the biggest load if lies i've ever seen, I'm an athiest and I love art and music, neither of which have ever started a war, religion on the other hand...

**Norsefire** · 08-25-08, 08:31 PM

They're irrational, can create passion and beliefs, and unnecessary.

**11parcal** · 08-25-08, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by Norsefire

They're irrational, can create passion and beliefs, and unnecessary.

You sound like the borg...

**SnakeLord** · 08-25-08, 08:34 PM

It's not based on the empirical and rational

How is it not rational? You've said it twice now but haven't explained how.

some of the crazy worlds portrayed in art are not real and thus should not ever be expressed.

They make real the thoughts and ideas of the artist so that others can understand and appreciate the thought.

Art is illogical, irrational, and unnecessary

Third time now: How so?

It has no basis.

Lol, of course it does. It is a means of communication, a means with which to share ideas and to accomplish needs. Take for instance romantic music. Without it as a facilitator you couldn't even guess how many people would never have got laid. Romantic music says so much more than many people are capable of putting into words. The same goes with other forms of art.

Emotions can lead to beliefs so we can't have emotions.

Of course you can. It might very well cause issues though when you try and shove those beliefs on everyone else, (you knock on my door early Saturday morning just to tell me that I must like rap music or I shall be tortured for eternity).

We need to be rational, logical, unemotional beings. Right?

Your posts alone are enough to answer that question. No.