Thread: Muslim Experience in America

  1. #221
    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalo Roam View Post
    Sounds more like SAM, "modus operandi" spin, spin, spin, SAM's vision of history, Islam the Snow White Innocent, and the Black Witch West, the sum of all evil.

    It still comes down to the Fact that SAM, a Muslem, supports terrorism on the part of her religion, SAM is a active voice in that Terrorism, and a vocal supporter of the Violence as long as it is done in the Name of Mohammad.....Allah.......and Islam.

    SAM drinks the blood, and washes her hand daily in the Blood of Innocent Moslems, Westerners, and the Rest Of The World.

    SAM and Islam on Jihad, Jihad against the rest of the Worlds Religion, Jihad to bring the World under the law of Sharia' and into the Ummah.

    SAM on a HOLY JIHAD, in the Name of Her Religion, Islam the Innocent covered in the Blood of it's victims, all because they practice a different religion, now explain the Death of Muslems by Muslems?
    Whoa dude? What the hell?



    You need to take a break from this place BR.. go take a walk or something. You're sounding a tad delusional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bells View Post
    Whoa dude? What the hell?



    You need to take a break from this place BR.. go take a walk or something. You're sounding a tad delusional.
    Maybe you need to look at your own Delusions?

    Everything can be solved in a peace full manner?

    The only way things are solved peacefully in Islam is when you abandon all of your beliefs, if you don't, you are subject to attack because of your religion, it you survive that, you become a second class citizen in your own land, and your life becomes the whim of the Muslem.

    This is Islam, read their Laws, look at the writings of their Imam's, and Ayatollah's, there is no compromise with any other Religion or Faith, there is no compromise with any other political system except, Sharia' and the Quran.

    They tell us they are going to convert or kill us, and they have done so since 632 AD, the Quran in one hand, the Sword in the other, and the only choice is Convert or Die.

    SAM support this Heart, Mind, and Soul, but she is to much of a coward to put her body on the line for Her Faith, that is left for those who aren't worth as much to Her, as She is to Her self.

    Have you been reading the News? watching T.V.?

    Islam, suicide bombing, Iraq, murder, Darfur, Phillipines, Bali, WTC, the Mohammad Cartoon, SAm has not condemed one thing.

    If it is done in the name of Islam, SAM is in full support of it.

    The Market Places that are Suicide Bombed, the Children Killed, the Women raped, as long as it is done in the name of Jihad, Islam Mohammad and Allah it is just and not to be questioned.

    Much the same as Nazism, all is allowed as long as it is done in the name of the Supreme Leader.....Mohammad and Allah.

    The goal of Islam is a world under Sharia' the Quran, bowing 5 times a day to Mecca and Allah, and SAM is a propagandist in that Religious Jihad.

    By SAM acquiescence, and defence of the killing of innocent people around the world, by SAM's Islamic Brothers on Jihad, wether infidel or Moslem, SAM has taken the blood of those victim's on to Her own Hands.

    It still comes down to the Fact that SAM, a Muslem, supports terrorism on the part of her religion, SAM is a active voice in that Terrorism, and a vocal supporter of the Violence as long as it is done in the Name of Mohammad.....Allah.......and Islam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bells View Post
    You tell me.

    From your quote:



    And yet..



    So, if as your link states, Kuwait's first contact with the British did not occur until 1775, how exactly did the West install the Al-Sabah line into power as its "puppet" from 1756?

    And wasn't the Ango-Ottoman Agreement signed in the early 1900's? 1913 or 14 or something the like?
    Arabs are nomads [mostly] they settle and resettle everywhere. The formation of the "kingdom" of Kuwait, from a province of the Ottoman Empire, however, was entirely a result of the British.
    Also during this period, the British established a base in the region. The British became increasingly interested in Kuwait, and the Middle East in general, as the Germans made plans to extend their proposed Berlin-Baghdad railway into Kuwait, where they intended to locate a coaling station.

    In January 1899, Mubarak signed an agreement with the British which pledged that Kuwait would never cede any territory nor receive agents or representatives of any foreign power without the British Government's consent. In essence, this policy gave Britain control of Kuwait's foreign policy.

    After this they signed an agreement with the Ottomans, which, true to form, they completely ignored when it came to their "interests". This has been the pattern of division of the ME states for all the states, from Palestine to Iraq.

    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalo Roam View Post
    Maybe you need to look at your own Delusions?

    Everything can be solved in a peace full manner?

    It still comes down to the Fact that SAM, a Muslem, supports terrorism on the part of her religion, SAM is a active voice in that Terrorism, and a vocal supporter of the Violence as long as it is done in the Name of Mohammad.....Allah.......and Islam.
    So who is currently occupying other people's countries? Who is not doing any body counts? Whose troops have invaded sovereign nations and refuse to leave? Who has killed millions and tortured thousands? Who is kidnapping foreign civilians and beating them to death?

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    I think Hamas did some of that last, actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John99 View Post
    Caught them red handed, photo proof positive,

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.A.M. View Post
    So who is currently occupying other people's countries? Who is not doing any body counts? Whose troops have invaded sovereign nations and refuse to leave? Who has killed millions and tortured thousands? Who is kidnapping foreign civilians and beating them to death?
    Hezbulla, for one Russia for second, China for a Third, Islam for a Home Run.

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    All the territory in the present Middle East were divided by lines made by the British and the French and given to their servants, those Arabs who were traitors to their people and had gained European favor. The Arabs had no say in the matter.

    Referring to the prison abuse and torture in Abu Ghareeb, Bagram, and Guantanamo Bay, anyone that excuses it or endorses it cannot be expected to have any humanity.

  9. #229
    Quote Originally Posted by S.A.M. View Post
    Arabs are nomads [mostly] they settle and resettle everywhere. The formation of the "kingdom" of Kuwait, from a province of the Ottoman Empire, however, was entirely a result of the British.
    Yes, but the leadership was in place before the British became involved. The Al-Sabah line became the head of the people and it remained in place after it became a province and then the "Kingdom". Ergo, the Al-Sabah line of power existed prior to British involvement.

    Look at the dates.

    At the beginning of the 18th century A.D., the 'Anizah tribe of central Arabia founded Kuwait City, which became an autonomous sheikdom by 1756. 'Abd Rahim of the al-Sabah became the first sheik, and his descendants continue to rule Kuwait today.
    (Source)
    From your quote:

    Kuwait's first contact with Britain occurred in 1775
    See?..

    After this they signed an agreement with the Ottomans, which, true to form, they completely ignored when it came to their "interests". This has been the pattern of division of the ME states for all the states, from Palestine to Iraq.
    Which was signed long after the Al-Sabah line came into power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bells View Post
    Yes, but the leadership was in place before the British became involved. The Al-Sabah line became the head of the people and it remained in place after it became a province and then the "Kingdom". Ergo, the Al-Sabah line of power existed prior to British involvement.

    Look at the dates.



    From your quote:



    See?..


    Which was signed long after the Al-Sabah line came into power.

    There was no leadership, it was like Muqtada al Sadr or the Hezbullah leading the Shias. Without arms and funds, he [they] cannot become President. You should read the entire history, if you can get your hands on it. The "king" was put in position, like the Shah of Iran and the British promised to "defend" him if he looked out for their interests.

    India's "first contact" with Britain occured long before they established colonial rule by setting up "kings" with privy purses who looked the other way. You forget, the Indians, the Palestinians, the Sudanese, we've all been there, where British divide and rule is concerned.

    The British employed "Divide and Rule" in British India as a means of preventing an uprising against the Raj. The partition of India is often attributed to these policies [1].

    In his historical survey Constantine's Sword, James P. Carroll writes,

    "Typically, imperial powers depend on the inability of oppressed local populations to muster a unified resistance, and the most successful occupiers are skilled at exploiting the differences among the occupied. Certainly that was the story of the British Empire's success, and its legacy of nurtured local hatreds can be seen wherever the Union Flag flew, from Muslim-Hindu hatred in Pakistan and India, to Catholic-Protestant hatred in Ireland, to, yes, Jew-Arab, hatred in modern Israel. [Ancient] Rome was as good at encouraging internecine resentments among the occupied as Britain ever was." [2]

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    Last edited by S.A.M.; 08-11-08 at 07:07 PM.

  11. #231
    Bells:
    You need to take a break from this place BR.. go take a walk or something. You're sounding a tad delusional.
    I think Buffalo is weary of S.A.M's dishonesty.

  12. #232
    Quote Originally Posted by Bells View Post
    Whoa dude? What the hell?



    You need to take a break from this place BR.. go take a walk or something. You're sounding a tad delusional.
    Nope. thats him normally.
    Although I remember when Baron Max was around, his posts were a bit more coherent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Challenger78 View Post
    Nope. thats him normally.
    Although I remember when Baron Max was around, his posts were a bit more coherent.
    ....

    Quote Originally Posted by lepustimidus View Post
    Bells:
    I think Buffalo is weary of S.A.M's dishonesty.
    It is the pure out right lies on SAM's part, that she cares about the children.

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    Please, do not turn this thread into another flame SAM thread.

    This issue is very serious. Muslims are going through a tough time in America due to some of the racist and prejudice people who hate all Muslims, some of which is demonstrated in this very thread.

  15. #235
    Quote Originally Posted by DiamondHearts View Post
    This is not uncommon, by the way. Muslims in America are the victims of prevalent hate crimes, discrimination by law enforcement, rape, murder, and imprisonment for political views.
    Well duh. Have you forgotten the Iranians taking over our embassy? Have you forgotten 9/11? The majority of Americans at the very least have negative feelings about Islam and are extremely suspicious of Muslims. A sizeable and vocal minority of them despise Islam and don't want Muslims within our borders. There are even a few who don't want Muslims anywhere near this planet. There's no sympathy for Muslims in the United States so don't go looking for it. Wrong century for that, dude. The best they can reasonably hope for is grudging, minimal tolerance with occasional breaches: to be the new "niggers."

    Sure it's uncivilized and I don't mean to imply that I share or even condone this attitude, but I can certainly understand where it comes from, having spent the last six years living and working fairly close to the Pentagon, watching its reconstruction, and seeing daily interviews with people who were only one degree of separation from someone who was there. Couple that with Americans' traditional utter ignorance of geography and world affairs: There are probably only a few thousand of us who know that the four largest Muslim countries are Indonesia, Nigeria, Pakistan and Bangladesh and that Arabs and Persians combined are a minority within the Muslim community.

    It's hard to be an apologist for Islam in today's America, so it stands to reason that it must be a whole lot harder to be an actual Muslim in today's America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiamondHearts View Post
    Please, do not turn this thread into another flame SAM thread.

    This issue is very serious. Muslims are going through a tough time in America due to some of the racist and prejudice people who hate all Muslims, some of which is demonstrated in this very thread.
    And a lot of Moslems are going through tough times around the world because of Muslems killing Moslems for pure suicide bombing sport.

    As far as prejudice, SAM has more than enough of it in Her make up, to qualify as a full fledged member in good standing of any raciest organization in the world.

    As for Moslems going through tough time in America, Really? I don't see it, I don't hear of it, what I see and hear is America Bending over backwards to be fair to all it's citizens and visitors.

    The only time some one is singled out is when they break the Law, there are no wide spread sweeps to round up Moslems in this Country, and there is nothing like the Riots and Killing, that take place every time Islam thinks it has been insulted.

    Islam has killed more innocent people over the Mohammad Cartoons, than any Moslems have been killed in this country.

    Islam the Peacful Religion....

  17. #237
    Quote Originally Posted by DiamondHearts View Post
    Please, do not turn this thread into another flame SAM thread.

    This issue is very serious. Muslims are going through a tough time in America due to some of the racist and prejudice people who hate all Muslims, some of which is demonstrated in this very thread.
    Pfft.. any discrimination muslims go through in America would be downright civilized in comparison to what an American would go through in many muslim countries.

  18. #238
    Quote Originally Posted by S.A.M. View Post
    There was no leadership, it was like Muqtada al Sadr or the Hezbullah leading the Shias. Without arms and funds, he [they] cannot become President. You should read the entire history, if you can get your hands on it. The "king" was put in position, like the Shah of Iran and the British promised to "defend" him if he looked out for their interests

    you are all over time and space with crappy strawmen
    get educated
    even wiki knows more than you

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banu_Khalid
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bani_Utbah
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Kuwait




    so ahh
    your analogy....
    brits are serpents offering apples in the garden of eden

    ja?
    do not lie!
    am i right?

    /cackle

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    sepiamutiny had a interesting observation a while back when syriana came out .....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fraggle Rocker View Post
    The best they can reasonably hope for is grudging, minimal tolerance with occasional breaches: to be the new "niggers."

    someone posted a link here that pointed towards an abc doc that enacted a bigoted store manger refusing service to hajis

    a few onlookers gave high fives
    more signaled disapproval
    most kept their mouths shut

    so "most" is up for grabs
    i say more of the "most" would have expressed disapproval if fear was not a factor

    i mean
    we also let anyone bleed to death on the street
    same mechanism

    ja
    my america
    cooler than shit
    Last edited by Gustav; 08-13-08 at 02:03 AM.

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