The Anti-Defamation League and SciForums

[Prince_James]

I wonder how the Anti-Defamation League would react to the nature of Sciforums rampant anti-Jewish sentiment? I'd imagine they'd hound people to no end over the matter, considering their track record of hyper-vigilance on such matters. But it would be interesting to contact them and see what they say about such trends, the posters who post them, et cetera.

Hmmm. Some posters here might be really hounded, though. That could pose a problem. Well, mostly for them, really, but for the forum as a whole: We clearly don't want people hounding people or posting repetitively. Although perhaps a balance considering the nature of some of the anti-Jewish sentiment here.

What say you Sciforumies? What do you think would happen if our politics and other areas were patrolled by more representatives (assuming there are some) from the ADL?

[iceaura]

Not too much defamation of Jews here, compared with everyone else. And that mostly from the Islamic nutcase faction. They shoot their own feet, no ADL help necessary.

Some defamation of Israel and the Zionist lobby in Washington - but that's hardly the same thing, eh?

[Prince_James]

The ADL is notorious for conflating anti-Israel sentiment with anti-Jewish sentiment. Furthermore, considering the fact that murder of Israeli civilians have been advocated by some, it would seem we'd have a problem with those posters faced with the ADL.

[spidergoat]

This isn't the press, or indeed anything important. I can't see why they would waste their time.

[superstring01]

The ADL is notorious for conflating anti-Israel sentiment with anti-Jewish sentiment. Furthermore, considering the fact that murder of Israeli civilians have been advocated by some, it would seem we'd have a problem with those posters faced with the ADL.

Prince, this is a public forum. A rather unknown one at that; with, perhaps, 50 regular posters only half of whom post regularly in the WE&P fora. The ADL and ACLU concern themselves with large and/or legal matters. Consider all the "other" fora out there in cyberspace that REALLY call for war against Israel, if they aren't getting acknowledged by the ACLU (an American entity) or the ADL, then I doubt the ten or fifteen members of this forum who have gripes with Israel would even register on their radar.

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[Ganymede]

Questioning the brutality of the I.D.F doesn't constitute anti-semitisim. I can't recall anyone here advocating the murder of innocent Jews.

[otheadp]

I wonder how the Anti-Defamation League would react to the nature of Sciforums rampant anti-Jewish sentiment? I'd imagine they'd hound people to no end over the matter, considering their track record of hyper-vigilance on such matters. But it would be interesting to contact them and see what they say about such trends, the posters who post them, et cetera.

Hmmm. Some posters here might be really hounded, though. That could pose a problem. Well, mostly for them, really, but for the forum as a whole: We clearly don't want people hounding people or posting repetitively. Although perhaps a balance considering the nature of some of the anti-Jewish sentiment here.

What say you Sciforumies? What do you think would happen if our politics and other areas were patrolled by more representatives (assuming there are some) from the ADL?

Let's just say that Sci has sometimes become a swamp and hit the bottom of the barrel. But not always. Over the 5 or so years I've been here I've seen a few regular anti-Semetic posters, including a few that are here now... but there are people that defend Israel and Jewry too. Not SAM-style with stupid rhetoric, but intelligently and concisely.

If a large enough organization would spew some of the comments that are found here, then ADL would take action. Believe it or not people (the anti Semites and anti Zionists here), your views are not main stream. Attribute it to the Great Jewish/Zionist Conspiracy all you want, but you are on the outskirts of what's considered acceptable and polite in American and even world discourse.

But as Superstring said, Sci is just a tiny community so ADL wouldn't bother with it. They respond to mainstream or visible enough groups.

[ElectricFetus]

Come on there no anti-semitism here, at least not on the levels I have seen:

[Prince_James]

Superstring01:

Prince, this is a public forum. A rather unknown one at that; with, perhaps, 50 regular posters only half of whom post regularly in the WE&P fora. The ADL and ACLU concern themselves with large and/or legal matters. Consider all the "other" fora out there in cyberspace that REALLY call for war against Israel, if they aren't getting acknowledged by the ACLU (an American entity) or the ADL, then I doubt the ten or fifteen members of this forum who have gripes with Israel would even register on their radar.

The ADL has been known to prowl the net. They have had publicized attacks against **********.com, KKK.com, the Nazi party website, et cetera. Sciforums, especially on an "intelligent community site" seems suitable for prowling.

Also, Sciforums is in the top 100 most active forums, I believe.

[ElectricFetus]

Superstring01:



The ADL has been known to prowl the net. They have had publicized attacks against **********.com, KKK.com, the Nazi party website, et cetera. Sciforums, especially on an "intelligent community site" seems suitable for prowling.

Also, Sciforums is in the top 100 most active forums, I believe.

You serious? Sciforums is like nothing!

[Asguard]

well they would be banned probably for being an anoance to the mods and the admin and for harasing members (if your view of them is correct). As for them taking legal action they would have a hard time of it because this site DOESNT fall under US juristriction

[Prince_James]

The ADL is multinational.

[Asguard]

***This is my own reading of how this would work so i could be compleatly wrong***

posably but it depends on the laws in the countries that have juristiction over this site.
The moderators and the admistrators disclaime that we cant be held responcable for the content of the site (though we will do our best to keep offensive material out of the site). also we fall under the achademic discussion portion of the anti discrimination acts (i belive) where open speach is given a freer raine so i HIGHLY doubt that any case would fly

[Kadark]

The ADL was created to stifle any and all complaints targeting Jewish wrongdoings. Nowadays, criticizing Israel's barbaric and illegal occupation is seen as an attack against the Jewish people. Complaining about America's immense Israeli lobby? "Anti-semitism". Its primary purpose is to illegalize the process of voicing one's concerns regarding Jewish affairs. Tell me, what is the only Holocaust in all of mankind that is illegal to deny, and is punishable by fines and jail time?

[Prince_James]

Asguard:

***This is my own reading of how this would work so i could be compleatly wrong***

posably but it depends on the laws in the countries that have juristiction over this site.
The moderators and the admistrators disclaime that we cant be held responcable for the content of the site (though we will do our best to keep offensive material out of the site). also we fall under the achademic discussion portion of the anti discrimination acts (i belive) where open speach is given a freer raine so i HIGHLY doubt that any case would fly

Dude. Seriously. Spellcheck. Come on. This is barely readable.

[Fraggle Rocker]

Asguard: Dude. Seriously. Spellcheck. Come on. This is barely readable.

If there's ever an anti-spelling-defamation league, Azzy will be its first victim. They'll force him to learn to use a spell-checker while being water-boarded.

[Ganymede]

Superstring01:



The ADL has been known to prowl the net. They have had publicized attacks against **********.com, KKK.com, the Nazi party website, et cetera. Sciforums, especially on an "intelligent community site" seems suitable for prowling.

Also, Sciforums is in the top 100 most active forums, I believe.

James, you should be the last one posting about defamation of another race. You have pontificated endlessly that Blacks are inferior. When it comes to race bashing Blacks are slandered allot more then the Jews are on Sci-Forums.

Your selective criticisms reek with the stench of hypocrisy. By your standards, the NAACP should be monitoring this forum, especially you?

[lepustimidus]

I wonder how the Anti-Defamation League would react to the nature of Sciforums rampant anti-Jewish sentiment? I'd imagine they'd hound people to no end over the matter, considering their track record of hyper-vigilance on such matters. But it would be interesting to contact them and see what they say about such trends, the posters who post them, et cetera.

Hmmm. Some posters here might be really hounded, though. That could pose a problem. Well, mostly for them, really, but for the forum as a whole: We clearly don't want people hounding people or posting repetitively. Although perhaps a balance considering the nature of some of the anti-Jewish sentiment here.

What say you Sciforumies? What do you think would happen if our politics and other areas were patrolled by more representatives (assuming there are some) from the ADL?

Just what we need. More Jews enforcing their will on Gentiles, exploiting the law to enforce censorship and totalitarianism. And then they wonder why so many people hate them.

Actually, I was just thinking. What do you think would happen if our politics and other areas were patrolled by more representatives from the KKK?

[Ganymede]

Tell me, what is the only Holocaust in all of mankind that is illegal to deny, and is punishable by fines and jail time?

Tell me about it. Slavery was a Holocaust also, that lasted 300+ years longer then the Jewish Holocaust. However, all you hear people say is that Blacks need to get over it. While the Jewish Holocaust is remembered annually in the form of Blockbuster movies and endless TV programs covering the subject.

Even today, Israel's dispaportionate aggression against it's neighbors is justified, due to events that occurred during the Holocaust. It's not applicable for Blacks to use slavery to justify their aggression towards Whites. So why does the former warrant the exception that no other race is afforded?