Saturn, the one and the ten,...

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  1. A4Ever Knows where his towel is Registered Senior Member

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    Saturn ascends, the one, the ten. Ignorant to the damage done.
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    Saturn comes back around to show you everything
    Let's you choose what you will not see and then
    Drags you down like a stone or lifts you up again
    Spits you out like a child, light and innocent.
    ...

    These are some lyrics by Tool of their cd Lateralus. The song is called 'The Grudge'.

    I really like digging into lyrics, but I can not figure out these things about Saturn ascends and the one and the ten.

    I ask this here, cause I picked up somewhere that it has something to do with predictions about the antichrist. I'll still be moved anyway I suppose

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    Is a bell rung for anyone?

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    Thanks.
     
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  3. LIGHTBEING Registered Senior Member

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    I don't really know....It may have something to do with the beginning and the end. If this is the case is should say the one, the nine. Just a guess.

    Hey if you like digging into lyrics, check this thread out.


    http://www.sciforums.com/t7979/s/thread.html
     
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  5. A4Ever Knows where his towel is Registered Senior Member

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    I don't see any discussion about interpretation of lyrics. All I see is people recomending their favourite bands to each other and then saying why theirs are better.

    It is a rap contest if you think about it

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    Hmm... maybe there should be a thread where someone posts a lyric and asks for an interpretation (not: 'meaning' like in this thread).

    But I already posted the thread 'parable' and got only one response. I don't think people are interested in it. Shame.

    Thanks for your reply!
     
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  7. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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  8. A4Ever Knows where his towel is Registered Senior Member

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    I think we need look no further than the description of houses one and ten in the link you posted.

    One is quite negative, ten is quite positive. If I have time, maybe I'll look for some more things linked to these houses. But I think it is clear. Altough you can never be to sure with this Maynard character

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    Do you know Tool?

    Hanging out would have to be done something between Leuven en Blankenberge. If you don't know these places, I'm afraid there are technical difficulties

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    Thanks for the help!
     
  9. LIGHTBEING Registered Senior Member

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    I just figured you would be interested in the Artist I listed. Their lyrics are very complex and worth taking a look at....if you are into that kinda stuff.
     
  10. A4Ever Knows where his towel is Registered Senior Member

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    I'm not really into hip hop, but if you claim such a distinction between everyday hip hop and underground, I get really interested

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    I will check them out, one day, cause I have tons of artists to check out. Oh man.

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  11. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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  12. A4Ever Knows where his towel is Registered Senior Member

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    Those are cities in Belgium.

    Cool! I am really curious.

    They are worth checking out.

    Thanks.
     
  13. Congrats Bartok Fiend Registered Senior Member

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    I know this thread has dirfted, but I think the reference to Saturn could be to the Greek God Saturn (aka Cronus). Naive, I know.
     
  14. A4Ever Knows where his towel is Registered Senior Member

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    More Saturn ideas very welcome!

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    Thanks!

    So what do you know about this god? Did he eat someone and spit him back out? Was he evil or good or did he switch?

    More more more!

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  15. Congrats Bartok Fiend Registered Senior Member

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    Yes...Cronus ate his son Jupiter (aka Zeus) and then was forced to spit him out by his wife, because he feared his power. Cronus belonged to a race of gods called the Titans which were than overthrown by their stronger children, the (10?) Olympian Gods.

    This definately fits the lyrics of the song- a large, bludgeoning, archaic power (conservative morals, past generations, etc.) that is inescapable as you try to find yourself. This is very interesting- you should make this like a weekly thing

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  16. A4Ever Knows where his towel is Registered Senior Member

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    Muchos thankos to Jan Ardena and Congratulations.

    I'll look out for some more obscure lyrics

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  17. OrionMurphy Registered Member

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    Possible explanation.....

    The song, the grudge, is over all (I think) about how grudges drag people down. Saturn was the god of the harvest. With that comes the notion that what one sows, they will reap. Thus, when Maynard writes "Saturn comes back around", I think he means that if you hold your grudges, you will reap grudges and the cycle will continue. That's the way I took it, anyway. But, Maynard may have meant something entirely different.
     

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