Should Australia develop nuclear weapons ?

**Asguard** · 04-27-08, 11:57 PM

Yes it was a humanitarian situation. Hundreds were being killed by indonisa backed millitants on a daily basis and so we sent in troops and then asked other nations to help. At that point though our country wasnt at risk, both our solders and our police force personal WERE at risk and yet inspite of the help we have given the US they refused to send one solder or police officer to help us.

Further more i dissagree that the US was in danger from Iraq and yet we still sent troops. Afganistan is more debatable and so i wont get into that right now, but the point is we asked for help and our "greatest alie" refused. In fact bush refused "the man of steel" and his "greatest friend" as well because our PM was Howard then.

So mad i ask, if they refused to send one solder of the 1000's you have to help us out or at least show that politically you were standing with us. How could we depend on you if we were asulted and needed those thousands of troops?

**joepistole** · 04-28-08, 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by lepustimidus

joe:

No doubt the Australian pacifiists were saying nearly the same thing just prior to the Japanese engaging in Imperial conquest in the Pacific.

Simply because Australia has few enemies 'at the moment' does not mean to say that it won't have enemies in the future. I have no doubt that if the West didn't still dominate global affairs, that our Asian neighbours would be licking their lips at the prospect of invading Australia and taking the open space for themselves.

Nukes are a double edged sword. They are expensive to create and maintain. You also have formidable alliances, most notably with Great Britian. And NATO is bound to defend Great Britian should she get in a squable. Australia is an advanced society and could develop nukes fairly easily whenever she would decide to do so.
But like I said, if you want go ahead. But what does that tell your neighbors? Maybe having nukes will make you less secure. Especially, if your neigbors decide they have to keep up with you.
As for Vietnam, the United States left Vietnam because the South could not effectively govern themselves. A situation that we are experiencing in Iraq too. I don't think Australia has a problem governing themselves. The problem in Vietnam and Iraq was a civil war. Americans don't think it an appropriate expenditure of our blood and treasure to intervene in the civil wars of other countries...especially to prop up corrupt governments.

**Mr. G** · 04-28-08, 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by James R

A pity you didn't think this one to its logical conclusion.

It had several. Pity you couldn't think them all.

Originally Posted by James R

USA! USA! It must be the best, 'cos you live there. Right?

James R! James R! You must be the best, 'cos you live you. Right?

Originally Posted by James R

I can just imagine you in your cheerleader's uniform, with your red, white and blue pom poms.

I thought Aussie males tended to see things in terms of competitive testosterone, not estrogen.

Ah. That's right. You're a dedicated babysitter.

Bitching comes natural to ya.

I imagine "meow" is the appropriate response you seek.

**Mr. G** · 04-28-08, 11:21 PM

Originally Posted by Asguard

I like some americans, like yourself but i dont trust your country as a whole and especially your goverment. This really goes no matter who is in power to be honest because they are both as bad as each other from an australian perspective. You dont HAVE a left in politics, just a right and a far right party if you compare it to other countries

Thank you for relieving USAmerica of any future obligation to come to your defense.

Hope that passive, non-nuke philosophy works out for you.

Nice to know we're not needed.

Oh, those F22s you folks have been pleading we sell you?

Well, just flap your arms. You don't need no stinkin' F22s.

**Syzygys** · 04-29-08, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by Challenger78

Should us Aussies get nukes ?,

Sure. Otherwise those pesky aborigins might get out of hand.

**~~lepustimidus~~** · 04-29-08, 09:13 AM

Oh please. Non-native Australians are too pussy to baton unruly Abbos, let alone use a nuke against them!

**Challenger78** · 04-29-08, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by lepustimidus

Oh please. Non-native Australians are too pussy to baton unruly Abbos, let alone use a nuke against them!

Actually, we did let the british use one on their land... But I see your pauliene Hansen Esqe point.

**~~lepustimidus~~** · 04-29-08, 09:22 AM

Damn, I wish Pauline Hanson would return as the head of One Nation, just like in the good ole days...

**Challenger78** · 04-29-08, 09:39 AM

Would you vote for her ?

**~~lepustimidus~~** · 04-29-08, 09:41 AM

Hell yes.

**Challenger78** · 04-29-08, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by lepustimidus

Hell yes.

Why ?

**~~lepustimidus~~** · 04-29-08, 09:45 AM

Because I'm mountain hare, in case you haven't figured it out.

**joepistole** · 04-29-08, 09:47 AM

Where is the darn shot gun?

**Challenger78** · 04-29-08, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by joepistole

Where is the darn shot gun?

I was thinking the exact same thing, The hare's back...bloody pests..

**~~lepustimidus~~** · 04-29-08, 09:53 AM

Oh that's lovely. I thought I'd be showered with hugs and kisses, but NOOOOOOOO.

**Challenger78** · 04-29-08, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by lepustimidus

Oh that's lovely. I thought I'd be showered with hugs and kisses, but NOOOOOOOO.

It's a forum, Hugs and kisses come from pedophiles. Or are asked by them.

**Zakariya04** · 04-29-08, 11:50 AM

hello guys

i hope all is good
yes of course Austrialia shoudl ahev nukes and buld them, in fact any friggin nation shoudl build up nukes, actually countries with nukes shoudl give a few to their neighbours who dont ahve nukes... I mean the US and Russia espically are just so damned greedy... talk abotu not sharing.. maybe India and pakisatn could share few of theres around, and howabout israel and china? they shoudl be kind and share too.

fuxckit may every country ahve muthafuckin nukes!!! its much fairer that way!!

**~~lepustimidus~~** · 04-29-08, 05:26 PM

A-fucking-men Zak! A-fucking-men! Nukes for all!

**Mr. G** · 04-30-08, 02:06 AM

Originally Posted by Zakariya04

hello guys
i hope all is good
yes of course Austrialia shoudl ahev nukes and buld them, in fact any friggin nation shoudl build up nukes, actually countries with nukes shoudl give a few to their neighbours who dont ahve nukes... I mean the US and Russia espically are just so damned greedy... talk abotu not sharing.. maybe India and pakisatn could share few of theres around, and howabout israel and china? they shoudl be kind and share too.

fuxckit may every country ahve muthafuckin nukes!!! its much fairer that way!!

Hell, yeah. Your wife should be passed around so all her daughters can have daddies who aren't you.

Makes perfect sense.

**firdroirich** · 04-30-08, 05:35 AM

Nukes are a bad idea. You're independent enough as it is, all things considered. Any more independence and you will be tempted to impose on other nations - the old 'bargaining with a sword' trick.
I'm from across the ditch and we deplore nuclear power, to an extent that the US wont even discuss a free trade agreement with us. So be it