Who is the greatest military leader?

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Who is the greatest military leader of all times?

  1. Gustavus Adolphus

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  2. Simon Bolivar

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  3. Fidel Castro

    3.2%
  4. Oliver Cromwell

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  5. Vo Ngueyn Giap

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  6. Hannibal

    6.5%
  7. Chaing Kai-Shek

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  8. Douglas MacArthur

    3.2%
  9. Peter the Great

    3.2%
  10. czar Ivan the third

    6.5%
  11. Erwin Rommel

    19.4%
  12. Shaka Zulu

    3.2%
  13. George Washingthon

    3.2%
  14. Alexander the Great

    29.0%
  15. Napoleon Bonaparte

    16.1%
  16. Charlemagne

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  17. Karl Doenitz

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  18. Ulysses Grant

    3.2%
  19. Adolf Hitler

    6.5%
  20. Joan of Arc

    3.2%
  21. Mustafa Kemal

    3.2%
  22. Norman Schwarzkopf

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  23. Alexander Suvorov

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  24. Mao Zedong

    9.7%
  25. Julius Caesar

    16.1%
  26. Hernando Cortes

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  27. Eisenhower D.D

    6.5%
  28. Genghis Khan

    25.8%
  29. Georgi Zhukov

    3.2%
  30. other

    22.6%
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  1. draqon Banned Banned

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    Let the war begin! Vote who is the greatest military leader of all times!
     
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  3. Ghost_007 Registered Senior Member

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    Khalid ibn al-Walid

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_ibn_al-Walid

     
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  5. clusteringflux Version 1. OH! Valued Senior Member

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    Difine "greatest". Is it relative to the desired outcome of the military action taken or just the ability to command an army?
     
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  7. draqon Banned Banned

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    outcome of that

    My definition of greatest is efficiency of tactical rule with minimal losses of own army over maximum losses of enemy army and use of minimal resources for self over maximum resources need for enemy with addition to achieving the goal in conquest of new lands and new resources, the more maximum the area in control is the greater the ruler is
     
  8. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    The greatest military leader is the one who doesn't have to go to war with anyone but solves the problems with his mind not his army.

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  9. draqon Banned Banned

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    mind does not solve problems, the actions resulting from decisions of the mind...do influence the solutions of those problems
     
  10. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    You need to think before you act.

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  11. superstring01 Moderator

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    You should have included Horatio Nelson. He's at the top. He was a certifiable genious. He was corageous. He was charismatic and he singlehandedly ended an entire era of naval warfare and created another all while defeating France at sea.

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    my mommy
     
  13. superstring01 Moderator

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    Whatever! Let's not split hairs.

    We're obviously talking about stretigic, social and political acumen in deciding actual battles... not the ability to avoid/defuse them (which is a worthy category, but that's not the point).

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  14. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Their all good.
     
  16. clusteringflux Version 1. OH! Valued Senior Member

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    Well, only 4000 troops in 5 years has to be a record. But it's less of a war and more just dodging sniper fire and such.
     
  17. shichimenshyo Caught in the machine Registered Senior Member

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    tokugawa ieyasu founder of the tokugawa shogunate in japan.
     
  18. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    Attila, the hun. Never lost*, conquered a big part of Europe and his name was feared for centuries after his death...

    *it is deabatable, but the battle in question was a draw...

    Since he is not on the list I voted Genghis, who had a similar record....
     
  19. John99 Banned Banned

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    Theres some there that may should not be on the there. For example hitler and also having rommel on the list seems redundant. Well i dont thing that Hitler was a military leader in the classic sense.
     
  20. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    I voted Alexander the Great btw.
     
  21. Kadark Banned Banned

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    Where's Saladin?

    From the list, Genghis Khan and Ataturk stood out to me.
     
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