Do We Really Need God?

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  1. PsychoticEpisode It is very dry in here today Valued Senior Member

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    According to the doomsayers, we're cooked. So what do we need God for? Maybe we don't need Him for anything but I think He needs us.
     
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  3. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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  5. PsychoticEpisode It is very dry in here today Valued Senior Member

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    I'd like one that gives a shit. Perhaps someone needs one for their collection?
     
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  7. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    I already got most of em. I have three allahs, 7 yawehs, 4 crishnas, 12 shivas, 2 bhuddas (they dont really count).

    I'll trade with ya if you want?
     
  8. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Yes. My life isn't such crap that I need to believe in an afterlife. But if my Mom had died when I was a child I would have needed to know she was in heaven waiting for me. Just because I don't need it doesn't mean other people don't.
     
  9. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    i think we're all part of god, so in that respect, yeah, we do need him to exist.
     
  10. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    What kind of question is this? It all centers on whether or not there IS a God

    If there is, we do
    If not, no
     
  11. shichimenshyo Caught in the machine Registered Senior Member

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    No, I dont think so
     
  12. snake river rufus Registered Senior Member

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    If there is an afterlife it could be the natural order of things so,,,no god need apply. Personally I don't like to think this life is just practice.
     
  13. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    I agree with Norse.
     
  14. synthesizer-patel Sweep the leg Johnny! Valued Senior Member

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    I'll see your gods and raise you a Zeus, three Thors, and a Ganesh
     
  15. shorty_37 Go! Canada Go! Registered Senior Member

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    No, but it all comes down to if you beleive there is one or not.
     
  16. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    It would be impossible to decide if we need a God if we do not know, firstly, whether or not there is a God.

    As I've stated, nobody here should be saying yes or no, because nobody here knows if there is a God!


    Logically, if there is a God, then we need Him; if not, then we do not.
     
  17. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    I guess the next q is whether such "doomsayers" are the reliable authorities for discerning one's spiritual situation and also whether one holds as an absolute value that one is faultless (ie "anyone who says I have a fault is obviously at fault")

    one could ask who is the "we" you are referring to.

    If you are a theist, the answer is yes
    If you are an atheist, the answer is also yes (what can an atheist say to establish their position unless they call upon god, albeit god's apparent non-existence?)

    :shrug:
     
  18. PsychoticEpisode It is very dry in here today Valued Senior Member

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    Atheist's need God to be there so they can say He isn't? Why haven't the atheists figured that out?
     
  19. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    Atheism is a positive claim?
    :wtf:
     
  20. greenberg until the end of the world Registered Senior Member

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    Excellent point!
     
  21. Vkothii Banned Banned

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    Why assume there's a need?
    Or that God is male? Or a person?

    Maybe 'need' doesn't come into it. Maybe God is a personality of some kind, but not male, or female, or even like a person...?
     
  22. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    or alternatively maybe there is no question of need in a person who is completely independent and self sufficient even though there is an obvious question of need amongst those persons who are not.
     
  23. capelli Registered Member

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    Hawking was asking this question recently on a program I saw in the UK. Although, I think the reason he was saying it was to ask "do we really need a god to explain the universe anymore", that's how I interpreted it anyway.

    Also, with future developments, such as the ability to create universes, create life, etc, we could have the same abilities as those we would define a god as having. That depends on your definition of a god though.
     

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