Galactic Republic VS United Federation of Planets

**Enterprise-D** · 07-08-09, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by Nasor

But since the rebels already destroyed the death star, does it matter?

Nope it doesn't

Just thought I'd address our friend Acid's question

**Nasor** · 07-09-09, 09:38 AM

I don't really see why the deathstar should worry about a one-man fighter. I mean, the exhaust shaft is what, like two meters wide? That's no bigger than a womp rat.

**NiccolòBrioschi** · 07-10-09, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by Nasor

They don't seem to have the technology any more. Wasn't the only prototype destroyed and the entire research team killed? We certainly didn't see them bust it out when it looked like the borg were about 5 minutes away from assimilating earth, or any other time the federation was in extreme danger.

Yes, but the federation keeps records and the project was classified at the time so it should be on the federation database if it hasn't been canceled... But this is unlikely. The suncrusher is still better but the UFP has time travel... Hmmm. They are highly outnumbered but with time travel you simply can't lose.

**Nasor** · 07-12-09, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by NiccolòBrioschi

Yes, but the federation keeps records and the project was classified at the time so it should be on the federation database if it hasn't been canceled... But this is unlikely. The suncrusher is still better but the UFP has time travel... Hmmm. They are highly outnumbered but with time travel you simply can't lose.

It doesn't really matter whether or not they are hypothetically able to build another genesis device, since the evidence indicates that they aren't willing to use one even when they are being faced with eminent destruction. If they weren't willing to use it against the borg, why would we think they would use it against the DS, or anything else?

**NiccolòBrioschi** · 07-12-09, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by Nasor

It doesn't really matter whether or not they are hypothetically able to build another genesis device, since the evidence indicates that they aren't willing to use one even when they are being faced with eminent destruction. If they weren't willing to use it against the borg, why would we think they would use it against the DS, or anything else?

They can build it but they don't... Time travel is the key.

**Majorearl12** · 06-06-12, 03:34 PM

Galactic Republic is far better than Federation because they travel around faster, bigger and better ships, fighters, billions of land troops (that the UFP doesnt have), and Jedi or course.

**Kittamaru** · 06-06-12, 03:37 PM

*facehoof*

First, welcome Majorearl12

Second - Be careful what you say and how you throw it around here - this is something that's been debated to death (and this is, honestly, a bit of a thread necro to boot) - none the less, the final determination (in another thread herein the forums) was that the side that wins is almost totally based on how you interpret the "canon" on both sides - if you intentionally low-ball one side and high-ball the other, it's a stomp. If you take visible examples from both (ergo, the Movies for Star Wars and the Episodes for Star Trek) you come out with a very, very close match that could go either way, mostly because the Federation has the superior technology in many respects (shields, weapons, tactics) whereas the Republic (going by the latest era in the movies) has the advantage in quantity, as well as speed and manufacturing.

**Nasor** · 06-06-12, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by Kittamaru

...the final determination (in another thread herein the forums) was that the side that wins is almost totally based on how you interpret the "canon" on both sides - if you intentionally low-ball one side and high-ball the other, it's a stomp. If you take visible examples from both (ergo, the Movies for Star Wars and the Episodes for Star Trek) you come out with a very, very close match that could go either way, mostly because the Federation has the superior technology in many respects (shields, weapons, tactics) whereas the Republic (going by the latest era in the movies) has the advantage in quantity, as well as speed and manufacturing.

Although I generally agree with this, I think it's hard to argue against the fact that, based on the TV/movie "cannon," the SW faction would have an incredible advantage in speed. SW ships can cross the galaxy relatively quickly (apparently days or weeks), while ST had an entire show based around the premise that it takes many years for a Federation ship to cross such distances. Of course, that's just looking at the Federation, rather than considering the likes of the Borg etc.

**Kittamaru** · 06-06-12, 06:01 PM

Exactly, which is why the timeframe is also important - do recall, within the next 20 years after TNG (according to "All Good Things" I believe it was), Warp Drive had advanced to allow speeds in excess of Warp 15, and TransWarp / Slipstream drives were becoming less of an experiment and more of a realistic way to get around. Not to mention the Ent-D's kickass refit with that heavy phaser cannon XD