03-11-08, 12:18 AM #41
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03-11-08, 07:57 AM #44
Back to the Dome of the Rock
Here are some views of the masjid.
Close up of the Dome
03-11-08, 07:59 AM #45
The masjid can hold 400,000 people
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03-11-08, 08:06 AM #46
03-11-08, 08:14 AM #47
Blood sacrifice is ritualistic in Talmudic law.
MISHNAH. … The slaughtering of the bullock and the he-goat
… their blood requires sprinkling between the staves [of the ark],
on the veil, and on the golden altar …
— Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Zebahim 47a
Soncino 1961 Edition, page 238
The Gemara on the 'Order' Kodashim is a testimony to the strong interest which the teachers of the Palestinian and Babylonian schools continued to take in the sacrificial cult even after its cessation with the destruction of the Temple. This interest was more than merely historical and academic. It was based on strictly practical considerations. There were in fact two motives that kept alive the study of the Seder Kodashim even after its laws had fallen into disuse. One sprang from the unquenchable hope that the Temple would sooner or later be rebuilt, involving the restoration of the sacrificial cult, so that the knowledge of its laws would once again become essential. The other was the belief that the study of the sacrificial laws could serve as a surrogate for the Temple cult and was no less efficacious than the actual offering of the sacrifice itself. These motives lay behind the unceasing intellectual activity that centered around the Seder Kodashim throughout the intervening centuries to the present day, and which has crystallized itself in a mass of commentaries on the 'Order'; and in our own times the conviction that has seized many minds that we are witnessing the Athhalta de-Geulah ('beginning of redemption') has led to the assiduous study of Seder Kodashim in many of the higher schools of learning in the Holy Land.- Rabbi Dr. Epstein
Babylonian Talmud, Seder Kodashim, Vol. I, pages xix, xx available at http://www.come-and-hear.com/talmud/kodashim.html#xix
Apparently the ritual is very involved.
-Prayers to Revive Sacrificial Cult
-Killing the Animals and Sprinkling the Blood
-He-Goats of New Moons Sacrificed in the North
-Slaughterer and Blood Sprinkler Chosen by Lot
-Sacrifice Is Trussed
-Killing on Correct Side of Altar
-Casting Blood on Correct Side of Altar
-Blood Wrung from Heart
-Priests Assigned Body Parts
-Priests All Standing with Limbs in Their Hands
-Sprinkling the Blood of Birds
-Certain Fingers Used To Smear Blood
-Washing Blood from the HandsBlood Drained Into Brook
-Wealth Displayed in Sacrificial Chamber (thats vessels containing the blood)
Hmm can we get ringside seats?
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03-11-08, 08:25 AM #48
Originally Posted by SAM
Re: "Jews helped build the Aqsa mosque", you make it sound like Jews welcomed the heavily armed invaders with open arms and gladly assimilated with out fear or threat of certain death...
I know there are different perspective, and from the Islamic perspective it's probably taught that yes, everywhere the Islamic armies went they were welcomed as Bringers of Truth or whatever. I know more or less for a billion percent that it wasn't so in Jerusalem.
Yes, the building is very pretty. I think the Jordanian king added the gold into the dome a few decades ago.
03-11-08, 08:28 AM #49
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03-11-08, 08:32 AM #51
against the Crusaders on the side of the Muslims.
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03-11-08, 09:05 AM #52
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03-11-08, 09:31 AM #54
I know it's not very nice to call the Aqsa mosque an abomination, but for many Jews (maybe most) that's exactly what it is. The equivallent of building a huge church on top of that cube that stands in Mecca.
03-11-08, 09:43 AM #55
It had been destroyed by the Romans a long time ago. Also the mosque is built on the storehouse.
The site of the Mosque originally contained the Chanuyot storehouse for the Temple in Jerusalem. The Chanuyot was destroyed along with the Temple by Roman Emperor (then General) Titus in 70 CE.
In the 16th century, Ottoman Sultan Suleiman the Magnificent permitted the Jews to make the Western Wall their official holy place and had his court architect Sinan build an oratory for them there.
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03-11-08, 09:59 AM #56
How nice of the Sultan for permitting Jews to worship their holiest site...
03-11-08, 10:01 AM #57
I wonder if that Sultan had the same opinion as the head of the Israeli Islamic Movement's northern branch's former head, by the way. (Read the OP).
03-11-08, 10:06 AM #58
The greatest influx of Jews into Asia Minor and the Ottoman Empire, however, occurred during the reign of Mehmed's successor, Beyazid II (1481-1512), after the expulsion of the Jews from Spain and Portugal. The sultan issued a formal invitation to Jews expelled from Spain and Portugal, and they started arriving in the empire in great numbers.
The sultan is said to have exclaimed thus at the Spanish monarch's lack of wisdom: "Ye call Ferdinand a wise king he who makes his land poor and ours rich!"
Jewish settler groups are digging an extensive tunnel network under Muslim areas of Jerusalem's Old City while building a ring of settlements around it to bolster their claim to the disputed city in any future peace deal, anti-settlement campaigners have told The Times.
One group, the Israeli Committee Against House Demolitions, said that settler tunnels could one day extend under the al-Aqsa mosque, Islam's third-holiest site, and claimed that extremists could use the access route to attack the structure in an attempt to prevent the creation of a Palestinian state. Settler groups flatly deny such allegations.
“The settlers are very interested in connecting the dots,” he said. “The intention is clear, to be able to enter the old city from the northern wall near the Damascus Gate, traverse the Old City without encountering a single Palestinian, emerge at the Western Wall, saunter across the plaza, re-enter the burrow and exit at Silwan.”
Jewish settlers have managed to lay claim to large tracts of the West Bank by building towns that are, under international law, illegal, establishing what they call “facts on the ground”. Now, it is claimed, they are trying to establish facts under the ground as well.
Ir Amin compares the illegal tunnelling under Palestinian homes to the excavations of the Western Wall, or Hasmonean, tunnel in 1996, which was so close to the Muslim holy sites that it triggered riots, the first big conflict to rock the Oslo peace process
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