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    Answer my previous question, please. Post #354

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    Quote Originally Posted by spidergoat View Post
    Then a billboard on Mars, "God wuz here".
    You know what falsifiability means, right?

    That's a personal problem, not a problem with not believing in God. I could want to kill all smokers, same thing.
    Atheism is rejection of thiesm. It could be violent if necesary.


    If it were, it's the fault of Right-wing Christian fundamentalist Republicans. I happen to think they only worship money. Why didn't the most overtly religious President in history stop the war?
    Probably a closet athiest. Dem materialists will do anything. And all the republicans keep falling out of closets.

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    Why are you deliberately avoiding answering my question, Sam?

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    because they are stupid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.A.M. View Post

    Atheism is rejection of thiesm.
    As an atheist yourself, who rejects Christian and Jewish theisms, amongst hundreds of other various theisms, why would you decide to accept one theism over all the others, when none are equally demonstrable?

    It could be violent if necesary.
    From the position of my atheism or your atheism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by (Q) View Post
    As an atheist yourself, who rejects Christian and Jewish theisms, amongst hundreds of other various theisms, why would you decide to accept one theism over all the others, when none are equally demonstrable?
    I don't reject Christian or Jewish thiesms, they are all the same, I disagree with some of their practices as I do with some practices of Muslims.

    I am as comfortable going to a church as to a mosque or a temple. It makes no difference to me.

    From the position of my atheism or your atheism?
    From the point of those athiests who are anti-thiests.

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    It gets boring after the first three times.

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    Falsifiability means that there could theoretically be some piece of evidence that could prove it false. I could think of all kinds of things that would prove atheism false.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.A.M. View Post
    because they are stupid?
    It's an extremely simple question, Sam. Why can't you answer a simple question? I don't think it's a stupid question. It's totally relevant to the discussion. Nice job with the ad hom, by the way. I thought you were a mod. What kind of mod uses ad homs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spidergoat View Post
    Falsifiability means that there could theoretically be some piece of evidence that could prove it false. I could think of all kinds of things that would prove atheism false.
    I'm sure you can. When you publish your findings let me know.

    Quote Originally Posted by francois View Post
    It's an extremely simple question, Sam. Why can't you answer a simple question? I don't think it's a stupid question. It's totally relevant to the discussion. Nice job with the ad hom, by the way. I thought you were a mod. What kind of mod uses ad homs?
    If you cannot see the difference between a disagreement and writing a book, going on a podium and making television shows and world tours to popularise one belief over another, there is not much I can tell you.

    And ad homs are directed to people. Your questions can be stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.A.M. View Post
    If you cannot see the difference between a disagreement and writing a book, going on a podium and making television shows and world tours to popularise one belief over another, there is not much I can tell you.
    Let's go back in the conversation a bit.

    I said:
    Is somebody disagreeing with you about something and explaining why they disagree with you evangelism? If I argued what caused WWI and gave some explanations which indicate why I'm right, would you call it evangelism?
    You said in response:
    Only when he says his unfalsifiable beliefs are better than my unfalsifiable beliefs.
    You said it right there. Only when he says his unfalsifiable beliefs are better than my unfalsifiable beliefs. Well, in my example, where you hypothetically believe in teletubbies partying under the surface of the planet Pluto, I am arguing "No there isn't!" I am saying that my unfalsifiable beliefs are better than yours! You said it yourself. It's evangelism.

    And ad homs are directed to people. Your questions can be stupid.
    And didn't you say in response to one of my questions (I don't know why...): ESL? Which I perceived to mean, English second language?. As if my English is really bad. I don't know why... I don't think I speak particularly bad English.

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    You said it right there. Only when he says his unfalsifiable beliefs are better than my unfalsifiable beliefs. Well, in my example, where you hypothetically believe in teletubbies partying under the surface of the planet Pluto, I am arguing "No there isn't!" I am saying that my unfalsifiable beliefs are better than yours! You said it yourself. It's evangelism.
    Because I am speaking in the context of the thread discussion which I assumed you to have read.

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    Under what context is it evangelism and under what context is it not then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.A.M. View Post
    I don't reject Christian or Jewish thiesms, they are all the same
    They are all the same, what?

    In order for you to be a Muslim, you must reject those theisms, just as they must reject yours. To argue otherwise would be to claim all religions purport identical doctrines.

    Silly in the extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by (Q) View Post
    They are all the same, what?

    In order for you to be a Muslim, you must reject those theisms, just as they must reject yours. To argue otherwise would be to claim all religions purport identical doctrines.

    Silly in the extreme.
    Yup thats what I believe. Now you can add silly to the list of my charms (liar, delusional, killer etc)

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois View Post
    Under what context is it evangelism and under what context is it not then?
    When you evangelise, its evangelism.

    http://evangelicalatheist.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.A.M. View Post
    When you evangelise, its evangelism.

    http://evangelicalatheist.com/
    I know what evangelism is, Sam. You implied before that your answer to my question as to whether or not it's evangelism depends on certain contexts. What are those contexts?

    I think you meant that if we were talking in private and discussing the reasons we believe things, it wouldn't be evangelism...

    But if it were public and we were talking about the same thing, it would be? I'm not assuming, I'm asking. This is what I want to know. When does it become evangelism for you, Sam?

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois View Post
    I know what evangelism is, Sam. You implied before that your answer to my question as to whether or not it's evangelism depends on certain contexts. What are those contexts?

    I think you meant that if we were talking in private and discussing the reasons we believe things, it wouldn't be evangelism...

    But if it were public and we were talking about the same thing, it would be? I'm not assuming, I'm asking. This is what I want to know. When does it become evangelism for you, Sam?
    I'm not inventing the dictionary here, meboy. When you preach to mankind, inviting all to the glory of the Word, while denouncing the evil of all others, its evangelism.

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    So aren't you using the wrong word when you talk about evangelizing atheists? They don't preach the "Word."

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois View Post
    So aren't you using the wrong word when you talk about evangelizing atheists? They don't preach the "Word."
    Atheism is rejection of theism, so Yes they do..

    The Word is Reject God!!!

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